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To: imardmd1
whereas on the other hand your unscriptural point of view of justification as a process with no salvation security in Jesus and His Preserved Word, but in the end it all hinges on one's own effort:

False; my view is scriptural and upholds all the words of the Messiah; works, works, works, which spring from hearing and obeying Messiah.

We can't agree, so let's just leave it at that.

If you say so; Messiah will judge in righteousness and equity.

813 posted on 08/04/2015 5:59:13 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981
Bold emphasis mine

And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass; I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and thy patience, and thy works; and the last to be more than the first. Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols. And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not. Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works. But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden. But that which ye have already hold fast till I come. And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations: And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father. And I will give him the morning star. He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
Revelation, Catholic chapter two, Protestant verses eighteen to twenty nine,
as authorized, but not authored by, King James

814 posted on 08/04/2015 6:48:16 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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