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What to do if you missed the Rapture
Youtube ^ | July 15, 2015 | Ed Hinson

Posted on 07/26/2015 8:55:19 AM PDT by MHGinTN

Here is yet more information, for those who miss the Rapture and are here after the event. This is for people, not any particular congregation of people. Please, think about it ...


TOPICS: Apologetics; Charismatic Christian; Evangelical Christian; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: opinions; rapture; tribulation
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To: af_vet_1981
These were not two stages, private and public, separated by three and a half years. The temple in Jerusalem was not exactly private property.

I'm not sure exactly what you are referring to. Since I can't read your mind, if you want a response you'll have to take the time to clarify in the common language what your point is.

In fact, the private phases, or stages if you will, in his two comings are that in the First coming as the Servant of The Father, he came TO His Own, a limited audience of close relatives and friends, as outlined before, whereas in the Second coming, in the first phase He will come FOR His own, those purchased by His Blood and sealed by the Holy Spirit. They, removed from catastrophe as Noah and his family were, will be given a new visible, tangible, eternal body like the one received by Jesus (the firstborn from the dead ones) at His resurrection.

They shall be like Him, because they will see him as He is, and like He was in the forty days after His resurrection when He was seen by above 500 people. Furthermore, in this preliminary phase they will be removed from the sphere of the wrath of The God poured out upon the earth for the very reason that their Redeemer had already suffered in their place. And as the Body of The Christ they were to be preserved from corruption of horrors never seen before and nor ever to be seen after, being sequestered in the Heaven to prepare for the celestial wedding to take place before His public appearance yet to come.

And as in the second stage of His First Coming, He appeared publicly in His capacity to provide the gift of salvation to the watching world, to minister to them--not to be ministered to--but to give His life as a ransom for those who believed on Him; as well as to enlist, train, authorize, and appoint administrator of His Will (Covenant), continuing to remember His Commission till He come.

But in the second phase of His Second Coming, He comes to to vanquish the armies of earthlings set against Him, to banish the Devil in chains to the sides of The Pit, to set up His Kingdom, and to judge the nations and winnow out those hegemonies who would either survive or be destroyed on the basis of how they treated His brethren, the Jews of the Diaspora.

And thence He came to give earthlings a last chance to respond to Him in the absence of their father the Devil. Then subsequently all humans who had despised Him to their bitter end would be judged and consigned to the Lake of Fire designed for the Devil and His coterie. In this case, King Jesus is coming to be ministered unto as the King of Kings and Lord of Lords, and is come to take away the lives of them who have refused His rule.

He will exact from them the price of the redemption which they have refused to accept, and conferring on them forever the pain of suffering for each of them which they have neglected to acknowldge or honor.

This is entirely supported by thr Scriptures, without having to invent ways to get rrid of inconvenient truths, as the mid-trib or post-trib rapturists, or amillennialists.

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761 posted on 08/03/2015 12:45:31 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: editor-surveyor; Yosemitest; Partisan Gunslinger; af_vet_1981; MHGinTN
When he is finally cast out, that begins the “70th week.”

"He" is what??

The anti-God (Rev. 13:1), or

the anti-Spirit (Rev. 13:4), or

the anti-Christ (Rev. 13:11), or

the abomination of desolation (Rev. 13:14-17)

All these are present and dominant in the earthly sphere at the beginning of the 70th week/heptad of years, the beginning of the tribulation period, of which the last three and a half years is the Great Tribulation.

The Rapture of the Bride and Her Friends into God's Paradise/Heaven marks
- the separation of wheat from tares, good fish from bad fish, wise virgins from foolish virgins, for
- the reintegration of the souls and spirits of the righteous saints with their new eternally living bodies of flesh and bone, like that of the resurrected Jesus;
- their judgment at the bema seat of Christ,
- the final cleanup and instruction of the Bride, and
- the consummation of the marriage of the Lamb (Rev. 19:7), - and its period of a year of secluded fellowship of the Christ and His Bride,
- during which the events of the tribulation are concurrently proceeding in the temporal sphere,
- after completion of which the Faithful and True righteous avenger goes forth to make war with the anti-trinity and their worldlings.
- Then these forces are vanquished, The anti-God and anti-Christ cast into the lake of fire, the anti-Spirit into the sides of the bottomless pit, and the remnant of faithless humans slain; and

- The king of Kings and Lord of Lords establishes His thousand-year reign and Kingdom of Heaven upon the Earth;
- judges the (people and governments of) nations (Mt. 24:21-46); and
- rules, with His overcomers, through His Regent David, from Jerusalem, over those remnant of humans justified by faith in the tribulation now to populate and restore the ruined earth.

You ought not to have a problem with this if you are His purchased possessions taught by a faithful discipler.

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762 posted on 08/03/2015 5:00:30 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: imardmd1

ES is a Michael Rood ‘disciple’, so a short look at what Rood asserts will give you all the insight you need.


763 posted on 08/03/2015 5:54:07 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: imardmd1
I was referring to post 703, as the "To" reference at the bottom of my post indicated. Someone had written there is only one return of Messiah, You agreed, but hedged with stages. There is no need to augment that scriptural truth with late breaking eisegesis and theories. "His own" refers to the nation of Israel. The temple grounds and ceremonies were not private venues rented out to the poor.

Concocting all these contradictory theories is fruitless. The Messiah will come. Every eye shall see Him. The apostles asked and Messiah told them it was not for them to know.

When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.
Acts, Catholic chapter one, Protestant verses six to seven,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James

764 posted on 08/03/2015 7:59:41 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: imardmd1
I was referring to post 703, as the "To" reference at the bottom of my post indicated. Someone had written there is only one return of Messiah, You agreed, but hedged with stages. There is no need to augment that scriptural truth with late breaking eisegesis and theories. "His own" refers to the nation of Israel. The temple grounds and ceremonies were not private venues rented out to the poor.

Concocting all these contradictory theories is fruitless. The Messiah will come. Every eye shall see Him. The apostles asked and Messiah told them it was not for them to know.

When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.
Acts, Catholic chapter one, Protestant verses six to seven,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James

765 posted on 08/03/2015 8:00:43 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981

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766 posted on 08/03/2015 8:01:19 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: Elsie

And your point is?


767 posted on 08/03/2015 10:10:26 AM PDT by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: imardmd1
- the reintegration of the souls and spirits of the righteous saints with their new eternally living bodies of flesh and bone, like that of the resurrected Jesus;

Whoa! Flesh cannot enter the Kingdom of God.

1Co 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

768 posted on 08/03/2015 10:22:02 AM PDT by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: imardmd1; Yosemitest; Partisan Gunslinger; af_vet_1981; MHGinTN

You already have been made aware that we do not support your preterist foolishness. Why do you persist at posting this garbage?

A millennium is a millennium; we should all be in the new Jerusalem by now if any of your foolishness were factual.
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769 posted on 08/03/2015 10:29:20 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Partisan Gunslinger

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>> “Flesh cannot enter the Kingdom of God.” <<

Butttt...............

(it’s his only hope!)


770 posted on 08/03/2015 10:33:02 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: MHGinTN

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>> “ES is a Michael Rood ‘disciple’” <<

Dead wrong!

“ES” is a solid Biblical literalist, disciple of Yeshua, and holds the scriptures to be true.(tough for a dispy to deal with)
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771 posted on 08/03/2015 10:37:00 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

I lost confidence in your truthfulness long ago. Your defense of Rood is in the archives here at FR, if anyone wanted to wrestle with your tarbaby.


772 posted on 08/03/2015 10:42:01 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: af_vet_1981

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>> “His own” refers to the nation of Israel. <<

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Actually it refers to the House of Judah (who received him not)

He was “sent” to the “House of Israel,” who, as Paul’s and Peter’s epistles illustrate, received him willingly.
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773 posted on 08/03/2015 10:42:44 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Partisan Gunslinger

Have you not read the letter tot he Corinthians that you quoted from? we shall ALL be changed, in the twinkling of an eye, to incorruptible from corruptible, so the body we are transformed into will not be corruptible flesh, but it will have physicality. I could explain it to you in more technical detail but something tells me you don’t want to have anything impinge upon your comfy level of understanding.


774 posted on 08/03/2015 10:45:00 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: MHGinTN

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I will defend all who preach the unadulterated truth of the scriptures with their every word. M Rood definitely is one of the very few that fall into that category.
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775 posted on 08/03/2015 10:45:13 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: MHGinTN; Partisan Gunslinger
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>> “but it will have physicality” <<

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It will be a spiritual body, as Yeshua explained very aptly to Nicodemus in John 3:8

It will be able to move through the physical universe invisibly as does the wind.

John 3:

[5] Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
[6] That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
[7] Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
[8] The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth:
so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

776 posted on 08/03/2015 10:55:29 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
Go to your own.

Did Jesus eat with the Disciples AFTER His resurrection? Did Jesus tell someone to touch His resurrected body, to confirm He had physicality?

To deny Jesus's teaching reveals one is owned by a spirit of confusion. His resurrection body has dimensional capabilities beyond JUST the 4D world we now sense, but it does have 4D capabilities as well as dimensional capabilities beyond the mere 4D of our current senses. A spirit of confusion will lead one into absurdities, like denying the body Jesus has now and the bodies He will transform us into have physicality.

777 posted on 08/03/2015 11:16:54 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: editor-surveyor

In Jesus’s teaching for Nicodemus, Jesus refers to being born from above. This birth is hallmarked by the Holy Spirit coming into believers, as shown graphically in Acts on the Day of Pentecost and in the House of Cornelius. The passage in John 3 does not refer to the body believers will be transformed into at the resurrection and Rapture of the believers in Christ. A spirit of confusion warps the mind, leading the warped to believe they have special truth which others are too stupid or too stubborn to understand. What the Bible teaches is not confusion, yet those under the spirit of confusion can be misled so easily by this spirit using Bible passages speciously, like confusing the passage in John 3 with the passage in 1 Cor 15:51-53.


778 posted on 08/03/2015 11:22:03 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: MHGinTN

Just as the angels did, Yeshua had the ability to “appear” as part of the physical world at will.

So will we after we are changed.

John 3:8 is way too plain to be denied.
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779 posted on 08/03/2015 11:23:44 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: MHGinTN

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>> “This birth is hallmarked by the Holy Spirit coming into believers” <<

Would that make you invisible?

Your understanding of this is frail.

Remember Elisha asking that his disciple be granted vision of the spirit realm?
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780 posted on 08/03/2015 11:27:21 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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