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To: af_vet_1981
These were not two stages, private and public, separated by three and a half years. The temple in Jerusalem was not exactly private property.

I'm not sure exactly what you are referring to. Since I can't read your mind, if you want a response you'll have to take the time to clarify in the common language what your point is.

In fact, the private phases, or stages if you will, in his two comings are that in the First coming as the Servant of The Father, he came TO His Own, a limited audience of close relatives and friends, as outlined before, whereas in the Second coming, in the first phase He will come FOR His own, those purchased by His Blood and sealed by the Holy Spirit. They, removed from catastrophe as Noah and his family were, will be given a new visible, tangible, eternal body like the one received by Jesus (the firstborn from the dead ones) at His resurrection.

They shall be like Him, because they will see him as He is, and like He was in the forty days after His resurrection when He was seen by above 500 people. Furthermore, in this preliminary phase they will be removed from the sphere of the wrath of The God poured out upon the earth for the very reason that their Redeemer had already suffered in their place. And as the Body of The Christ they were to be preserved from corruption of horrors never seen before and nor ever to be seen after, being sequestered in the Heaven to prepare for the celestial wedding to take place before His public appearance yet to come.

And as in the second stage of His First Coming, He appeared publicly in His capacity to provide the gift of salvation to the watching world, to minister to them--not to be ministered to--but to give His life as a ransom for those who believed on Him; as well as to enlist, train, authorize, and appoint administrator of His Will (Covenant), continuing to remember His Commission till He come.

But in the second phase of His Second Coming, He comes to to vanquish the armies of earthlings set against Him, to banish the Devil in chains to the sides of The Pit, to set up His Kingdom, and to judge the nations and winnow out those hegemonies who would either survive or be destroyed on the basis of how they treated His brethren, the Jews of the Diaspora.

And thence He came to give earthlings a last chance to respond to Him in the absence of their father the Devil. Then subsequently all humans who had despised Him to their bitter end would be judged and consigned to the Lake of Fire designed for the Devil and His coterie. In this case, King Jesus is coming to be ministered unto as the King of Kings and Lord of Lords, and is come to take away the lives of them who have refused His rule.

He will exact from them the price of the redemption which they have refused to accept, and conferring on them forever the pain of suffering for each of them which they have neglected to acknowldge or honor.

This is entirely supported by thr Scriptures, without having to invent ways to get rrid of inconvenient truths, as the mid-trib or post-trib rapturists, or amillennialists.

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761 posted on 08/03/2015 12:45:31 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: imardmd1
I was referring to post 703, as the "To" reference at the bottom of my post indicated. Someone had written there is only one return of Messiah, You agreed, but hedged with stages. There is no need to augment that scriptural truth with late breaking eisegesis and theories. "His own" refers to the nation of Israel. The temple grounds and ceremonies were not private venues rented out to the poor.

Concocting all these contradictory theories is fruitless. The Messiah will come. Every eye shall see Him. The apostles asked and Messiah told them it was not for them to know.

When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.
Acts, Catholic chapter one, Protestant verses six to seven,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James

764 posted on 08/03/2015 7:59:41 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: imardmd1
I was referring to post 703, as the "To" reference at the bottom of my post indicated. Someone had written there is only one return of Messiah, You agreed, but hedged with stages. There is no need to augment that scriptural truth with late breaking eisegesis and theories. "His own" refers to the nation of Israel. The temple grounds and ceremonies were not private venues rented out to the poor.

Concocting all these contradictory theories is fruitless. The Messiah will come. Every eye shall see Him. The apostles asked and Messiah told them it was not for them to know.

When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.
Acts, Catholic chapter one, Protestant verses six to seven,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James

765 posted on 08/03/2015 8:00:43 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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