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Pope's warning against 'seers' seems aimed at Medjugorje (Catholic Caucus)
Catholic Culture ^ | June 9, 2015 | Diogenes

Posted on 06/09/2015 2:50:05 PM PDT by NYer

Pope Francis encouraged the faithful to be on guard against “visionaries” – in a remark that seemed to be aimed at the ‘seers’ of Medjugorje--during his homily at Mass on June 9.

In a comment about Christians who search constantly for some special new insight, some novelty in the faith, the Pope said: “Where are the visionaries who can tell us exactly what message Our Lady will be sending at four in the morning?”

Although the Pope did not identify any particular “visionaries,” his comment came just a few days after he had been asked to make a public statement on the alleged apparitions at Medjugorje. Several of the people who claim to have experienced visions of the Virgin Mary still report regular daily apparitions, and even announce in advance when those visions will occur.

In his homily Pope Francis was arguing against the “modern Gnostics” who practice a “slightly ethereal spirituality” and search for a special mystical vision, and base their faith on private revelations.

“This identity is not Christian,” the Holy Father said. The Gnostic approach, he argued, is as wrong-headed as that of those who seek to avoid the scandal of the Cross. He reminded his congregation: “God’s final Word is Jesus, and nothing else.”


TOPICS: Catholic; Prayer; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: medjugorje; pope

1 posted on 06/09/2015 2:50:05 PM PDT by NYer
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CATHOLIC CAUCUS

Ping!

2 posted on 06/09/2015 2:50:43 PM PDT by NYer (Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy them. Mt 6:19)
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Many of my family members and friends have visited Medjugorje. I personally do not wish to visit, since I am convinced that the “seers” are snake oil salesmen. However, my father received many blessing there.


3 posted on 06/09/2015 3:43:43 PM PDT by Falconspeed ("Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." Robert Louis Stevenson (1850-94))
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Were we denied the third secret of Fatima?

Lots of Catholics believe so.

Lack of transparency only helps to increase demand for more visions.

4 posted on 06/09/2015 3:44:01 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: Falconspeed
Many of my family members and friends have visited Medjugorje. I personally do not wish to visit, since I am convinced that the “seers” are snake oil salesmen. However, my father received many blessing there.

Like you, I know of several people who have visited Medjugorje and come back transformed. Personally, I have no desire to visit.

5 posted on 06/09/2015 3:47:28 PM PDT by NYer (Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy them. Mt 6:19)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
Were we denied the third secret of Fatima?

The answer has been given by one of the seers, Lucia .. an emphatic "NO".

6 posted on 06/09/2015 3:48:47 PM PDT by NYer (Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy them. Mt 6:19)
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Sounds like he might be scared about someone’s vision.


7 posted on 06/09/2015 4:06:14 PM PDT by Republican1795.
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I've been to Medjugorje. It has become quite commercialized since starting out as a tiny, remote village in the hills of Bosnia (not far from Mostar). I stayed at the house of one of the seers, who ran a kind of bed and breakfast for pilgrims. She's very nice and I believe she is sincere. There are some others, whom I think are not so sincere and are just cashing in. I was present when one of the seers received the monthly message that is published regularly. I don't think it was fake, but I'm not sure what it was.

Other than that, I didn't experience anything miraculous. I went to Mass and went to confession. Climbed both mountains. Sampled the wine, the beer and the pizza, and the home cooked food at the B&B. It's was all good. Lovely place and no mosquitos.

8 posted on 06/09/2015 4:28:24 PM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them)
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Have you ever heard of Our Lady of Good Success. I just learned about it today, absolutely fascinating. The prophecies are for today, but the were given in the 1600’s. So many have already come true. It is right on point on what is going on today in the church. Amazing! It is an approved apparition.


9 posted on 06/09/2015 7:48:26 PM PDT by JPII Be Not Afraid
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To: Falconspeed
I personally do not wish to visit, since I am convinced that the “seers” are snake oil salesmen. However, my father received many blessing there.

My sediments sentiments same as yours. As your father discovered, God can still deliver grace and miracles to sincere visitors despite the frauds taking place nearby.

10 posted on 06/09/2015 9:27:25 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc OÂ’Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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Medjugorje Is not an approved apparition

It’s very simple


11 posted on 06/10/2015 8:56:39 AM PDT by stanne
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