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Some Things Are Not for You to Know – A Meditation on the Seven Thunders of the Book of Revelation
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 04-28-15 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 04/29/2015 7:05:33 AM PDT by Salvation

There Are Some Things That Are Not for You to Know – A Meditation on the Seven Thunders of the Book of Revelation

By: Msgr. Charles Pope

7 thunders

In the Office last week, we read a poignant passage from the Book of Revelation. It reminds us that there are some things that are not for us to know.

Then I saw another mighty angel coming down from heaven. He was robed in a cloud, with a rainbow above his head; his face was like the sun, and his legs were like fiery pillars. He was holding a little scroll, which lay open in his hand. He planted his right foot on the sea and his left foot on the land, and he gave a loud shout like the roar of a lion. When he shouted, the voices of the seven thunders spoke. And when the seven thunders spoke, I was about to write; but I heard a voice from heaven say, “Seal up what the seven thunders have said and do not write it down” (Rev 10:1-4).

A similar passage occurs in the Book of Daniel, where, having had certain things revealed to him, he is told,

But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words and seal the book, even to the time of the end (Dan 12:4).

And to the Apostles, who pined for knowledge of the last things, Jesus said,

It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power (Acts 1:7).

In all these texts we are reminded that there are some things, even many things, that are not for us to know. This is a warning against sinful curiosity and a solemn reminder that not all God’s purposes or plans are revealed to us.

Several reasons come to mind for this silence and for the command to seal up the revelation of the seven thunders:

  1. It is an instruction against arrogance and sinful curiosity. Usually, especially in our modern setting, people think they have right to know just about anything. The press speaks of the people’s “right to know.” And while this may be true about the affairs of government, it is not true about people’s private lives, and it is surely not true about all the mysteries of God. There are just some things that we have no right to know, that are none of our business. Much of our prying and nosing around is a mere pretext for gossip, and for the opportunity to see others’ failures and faults. It is probably not an exaggeration to say that more than half of what we talk about all day long is none of our business.
  2. It is a rebuke of our misuse of knowledge. Sadly, especially in the “information age,” we speak of knowledge as power. We seek to know in order to control, rather than to repent and conform to the truth. We think that we should be able to do anything we know how to do. Even more reason, then, that God should withhold from us the knowledge of many things, seeing as how we have confused knowledge with wisdom, and have used our knowledge as a pretext to abuse power, to kill with nuclear might, and to pervert the glory of human life with “reproductive technology.” Knowledge abused in this way is not wisdom; it is foolishness and is a path to grave evils.
  3. It is to spare us from the effects of knowing things we cannot handle. The very fact that the Revelation text above describes this knowledge as “seven thunders” indicates that these hidden utterances are of fearful weightiness. Seven is a number that refers to the fullness of something, so these are loud and devastating thunders. God, in His mercy to us, does not reveal all the fearsome terrors that will come on this sinful world, which cannot endure the glorious and fiery presence of His justice.  Too much for this world are the arrows of His quiver, which are not exhausted. Besides the terrors already foretold in Scripture, the seven thunders may well conceal others that are unutterable and too horrifying for the world to endure, a world that is incapable of enduring His holiness or of standing when He shall appear.

What, then, is to be our stance in light of the many things too great for us to know and which God mercifully conceals from us? We should have the humility of a child, who knows what he does not know but is content that his father knows. One of the psalms says,

O Lord, my heart is not proud
nor haughty my eyes.
I have not gone after things too great
nor marvels beyond me.

Truly I have set my soul
in silence and peace.
Like a weaned child on its mother’s lap,
even so is my soul.

O Israel, hope in the Lord
both now and forever (Psalm 131 in toto).

Yes, like a humble child we should seek to learn, realizing that there are many things that are beyond us, that are too great for us. So we should seek to learn, but in the humility that is the reverence for the truth, a humility that realizes that we are but little children, not lords and masters.

Scripture says, Beyond these created wonders many things lie hid. Only a few of God’s works have we seen (Sirach 43:34).

Thank you, Lord, for what you have taught us and revealed to us. Thank you, too, for what you have mercifully kept hidden and which is too much for us to know. Thank you, Lord. Help us learn and keep us humble, like little children.



TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; History; Theology
KEYWORDS: bookofrevelation; catholic; msgrcharlespope; seventhunders
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1 posted on 04/29/2015 7:05:33 AM PDT by Salvation
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There Are Some Things That Are Not for You to Know – A Meditation on the Seven Thunders of the Book of Revelation


2 posted on 04/29/2015 7:05:58 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: nickcarraway; NYer; ELS; Pyro7480; livius; ArrogantBustard; Catholicguy; RobbyS; marshmallow; ...

Monsignor Pope Ping!


3 posted on 04/29/2015 7:07:48 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

That was lovely, thank you.


4 posted on 04/29/2015 7:16:11 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Salvation

Proverbs 25:2 “It is the glory of God to conceal things, but the glory of kings is to search things out.” It is sometimes difficult to know what to search out, and what to let God conceal.


5 posted on 04/29/2015 7:28:10 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: Salvation

The quote from Sirach 43:34 is actually Sirach 43:36.


6 posted on 04/29/2015 7:38:44 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: Salvation

Makes sense. Same reasons not to eat the apple. Very hard for women like me who are control freaks. And probably the reason for my rheumatoid arthritis.


7 posted on 04/29/2015 7:46:53 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: chajin

Only God knows the coming of the last day.


8 posted on 04/29/2015 7:53:01 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: rjsimmon

The RSV has it thusly.

Sirach 43:
32 Many things greater than these lie hidden, for we have seen but few of his works.

Sirach 43 only goes through 33 in the Catholic Bibles — difference in numbering?


9 posted on 04/29/2015 7:59:36 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation
Sirach 43 only goes through 33 in the Catholic Bibles — difference in numbering?

Could be, but Sirach goes to 37 verses. I am not a fan of the Apocrypha but it should be consistent within the Catholic orthodoxy.

Sirach 43:33-37:
"33 Blessing the Lord, exalt him as much as you can: for he is above all praise.
34 When you exalt him put forth all your strength, and be not weary: for you can never go far enough.
35 Who shall see him, and declare him? and who shall magnify him as he is from the beginning?
36 There are many things hidden from us that are greater than these: for we have seen but a few of his works.
37 But the Lord hath made all things, and to the godly he hath given wisdom."

Bible Gateway

10 posted on 04/29/2015 8:12:29 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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I am not a fan of the Apocrypha

They just haven't been the same since their first CD went platinum...

(yes, he's just joking)

11 posted on 04/29/2015 8:34:44 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: chajin
They just haven't been the same since their first CD went platinum...

Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk...


12 posted on 04/29/2015 8:38:49 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: Salvation

And, speaking of Apocrypha, there is that famous verse, Matthew 24:36 (KJV):

But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.


13 posted on 04/29/2015 9:21:58 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Only God knows the coming of the last day.

Due to a shortage of trumpeters, Doomsday has been postponed.

14 posted on 04/29/2015 2:39:51 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney ( book, RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY, available from Amazon)
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