Posted on 04/05/2015 1:59:53 PM PDT by NYer
For me, as a Protestant, I find no other way to explain these miracles than to say, flatly, that there’s something about Mary. Something incredible. Something blessed....
Satan could never, and would never, use anything that would lead so many millions of people to a relationship with Christ—and that is precisely what these Marian miracles do.
John MacArthur-Is Roman Catholicism a False Gospel
May all our Catholic friends please accept this as a message of love and take it to heart.
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David’s thoughts are not your thoughts.
You speaking Davids thoughts is empty babbling, since you as a catholic cannot even understand a real believer’s feelings.
Catholics declare a sinful created woman to be the mother of God. That is so far off the plain of understanding as to be baffling.
After Yeshua’s Way had been bringing hope to men for 300 years, along come catholics and begin slaughtering them for following his commandments, and keeping his Sabbath, and then have the audacity to declare themselves to be his true assembly.
Now that is what I call a crock!
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True, but i try to reduce size for such supplementary stuff, as is done for footnotes in books. I see that in IE it is very small, but in FF it is much more readable. Hold down the Ctrl key and tap the + key.
Indeed. But there is also the premise that they converted by producing forgeries that defended Rome!
This is totally off-the-wall!
Just asking: have you read Tim Staples’ new book on the subject? (”Behold Your Mother”)
I respectfully disagree. Professor Hahn makes a compelling scriptural argument for the identification of the Virgin Mary with the Ark of the Covenant.
Religion was never pounded into my head. I was brought up nominally Methodist and didn't join the Catholic Church until I was 48, mostly based on an unapproved seer but not all.
I didn't fit in culturally, and spiritually I had a lot to sort through. There has been heterodoxy in the church for centuries. And abuses. I see that now. There has also been much good.
After being deceived, I wouldn't trust anybody to lead me on the right path. I still don't. It would be so much easier if all of it were true. But it isn't. And you don't have to believe in private revelations. They've made their way into mass, not to a huge extent, but after mass, the people like to bond and talk about things. The big thing was all my friends were travelling to Medjugorje or being in Medjugorje groups..
There was a spinoff of Medjugorje into all the Marian apparitions. To be on the safe side, I decided to stick with only the apparitions deemed worthy of belief, approved by the church, knowing I didn't have to believe in them.
Now this one comes along, it's approved by the church, and I don't believe in it for good reason. I studied facts, researched, read select books, some for, very very very few against.
Something kind of funny and sad at the same time one day. I was attending daily mass. I made a new friend, an Hispanic from a large family. Her sister went to my church and we become somewhat friendly. I was in the habit of attending the coffees after the mass and the people were friendly but not like you'd known them for years, your children, etc.
I invited my friend's sister to come down for coffee because she seemed to stay by herself at mass. She agreed to. I can't remember what set her off but we didn't sit at the coffee long before she went off on somebody. It's quite a long time ago now and so unpleasant I can't exactly remember but she spouted out that the priest was evil.
We didn't stay long after that. I was shocked (she does have a fiery personality but a hard worker, hard life, and did befriend me sincerely). So we talked a little. It boiled down to she was irate that on St. Patrick's Day, the statue of St. Patrick was moved onto the altar area.
When Our Lady of Guadalupe statue came to town, the priest consigned her to the parish center where the coffees were. It was a cultural clash. The Germans and irish were here first, and the Hispanics came later.
Saved the rest for another time, maybe never.
She was in Detroit for a time, I don't know why, but she found a church there. The priest used her to collect money from people, then he was stealing it from the church. She didn't realize for a long time what was going on but when she did, she turned him in, I didn't ask whether to a higher priest, a bishop, or the police.
I have no reason not to believe her.
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>> “ Jesus had a mother!” <<
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The human boy did, the Logos didn’t.
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Wow. Confirms what I know to be truth. Thank you.
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Hahn is a loon!
Mary had nothing to do with the Ark, and the division of the Bible into old and new testaments is nonsense too.
The only thing changed in the covenant was the fulfillment of the promised perfect sacrifice. It continued to be the same covenant.
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So obvious that there should be no need to post it.
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>> “ but she spouted out that the priest was evil.” <<
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She was obviously filled with the Holy Spirit, which gave her the courage to speak God’s truth where it was needed.
But the message went only to those that were his own; the rest surely were put off or frightened by it.
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Thanks either way.
Sadly, not only against Catholics, but against the mother of Jesus. When a person's mother is insulted, so is that person. The straw man argument that ours is a different Jesus, just doesn't fly.
You'd think people would grow up and stop "playing the dozens" -they're really doing it to Jesus.
They are all the same Person and always have been.
Jesus is God the Father.
Jesus is the Holy Spirit.
The Holy Spirit is God the Father.
Nice heresy. It's called Modalism, an "unorthodox belief that God is one person who has revealed himself in three forms or modes in contrast to the Trinitarian doctrine where God is one being eternally existing in three persons."
The heresy was condemned by Dionysius, the bishop of Rome, around 259 AD in an epistle titled "Against the Sabellians".
Anyone who believes this heresy can not rightly claim to be part of the church catholic. Check out Lutheran Satire, episode "St. Patrick's Bad Analogies" for more heresies about the trinity.
I didn't see him as evil. He was one of the nicer ones actually but he did run a tight ship. So maybe thou judgeth me in that regard. He passed away some years ago now, and I have prayed for his soul, not that I think he needs it more than others. There's another stickler. Once your gone, your fate is sealed. I don't exactly believe that across the board any more.
I don't believe Mary sleeps. How can that be? Even before Christ rose from the dead (he didn't sleep) we are told that Christ before his resurrection preached to the spirits in prison. If they were in prison, they were sentient and some at least capable of being taught and understanding.
Amen.
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