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Pope Francis greets Curia for Christmas, and rips them to shreds
WDTPRS ^ | December 22, 2014 | Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

Posted on 12/22/2014 2:09:07 PM PST by NYer

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1 posted on 12/22/2014 2:09:07 PM PST by NYer
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To: Tax-chick; GregB; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; Ronaldus Magnus; tiki; Salvation; ...
Heads up, ping! The mainstream media are all over this story. Rather than post a secular report, I went with Fr. Z's commentary.

Ping!

2 posted on 12/22/2014 2:10:38 PM PST by NYer (Merry Christmas and best wishes for a blessed New Year!)
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“I understand that the pope wants us to live up to our ideals, but you wonder sometimes if he has anything positive to say about us at all,” the official said, who’s been in Vatican service for more than two decades.

I hear the Pope said they served up a sweet margarita. That seems positive to me.

3 posted on 12/22/2014 2:13:00 PM PST by MeganC (It took Democrats four hours to deport Elian Gonzalez)
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a mixture of pastoral and business management concerns, probably pretty appropriate for his audience of Church management personnel

and he won’t have to worry much about his item 10 (suckup staffers) if he keeps talking to them this way

:)


4 posted on 12/22/2014 2:15:52 PM PST by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..))
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This is Christmas. Where’s his Christmas spirit? It all seems to be about him.


5 posted on 12/22/2014 2:21:01 PM PST by FR_addict ( Boehner needs to go!)
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Why doesn’t he speak like this all the time?


6 posted on 12/22/2014 2:22:29 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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This wasn’t about him, the Pope. It was about the sins of these Cardinals, etc.


7 posted on 12/22/2014 2:23:37 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Obola and Frances are peas in the same Marxist pod.
8 posted on 12/22/2014 2:24:33 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Any energy source that requires a subsidy is, by definition, "unsustainable.")
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I remember at the time he became pope that some said his mandate from the cardinals was to clean up the Curia.


9 posted on 12/22/2014 2:32:34 PM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

My take precisely. Francis condemns officious action but parades satanic relations with the Castros that have the singular consequence of sustaining their little shop of horrors.


10 posted on 12/22/2014 2:33:39 PM PST by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Yeah. Prayer, empathy, freedom in the Holy Spirit, sharing people’s joys and sorrows, repentance, confession, and conversion. Straight Marxism.

/s/


11 posted on 12/22/2014 2:49:56 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Your sarcasm tag: never leave home without it.)
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Sounds very Holy Father-ish, with the emphasis on Father. Nobody likes to be on the receiving end of a father’s lecture, but many people need one.


12 posted on 12/22/2014 2:53:03 PM PST by married21 ( As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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This Pope needs to take a long hard look in the mirror. Without a doubt he is the most egotistical, hypocritical individuals to hold the papal office in well over 100 years.

Pope Francis, please do us Catholics a favor for 2015 and just shut your mouth for a change.


13 posted on 12/22/2014 2:56:41 PM PST by CdMGuy
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To: Louis Foxwell

Amen -
Can’t understand so many Catholic news posting here, in light of game over facts about gross corruption of Vatican papacy institution.
New World order is being created and driven by the RC and many other church leaders.
When 30 year pedophile priesthood Vatican scandal facts arose, that was a real good indication of how anti-Christ the RC top leadership had become.
Suffer the little children and all...
Honestly not trying to catholic bash here.
It seems like almost all institutions are increasingly untrustworthy and unraveling fast.
God help us - please.


14 posted on 12/22/2014 2:57:17 PM PST by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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I appears Pope Francis is pursuing the detente with Cuba which was started by Pope John Paul II and Pope Benedict XVI (LINK, worth a click)

I certainly needn't believe, and in fact to NOT believe that papal diplomacy is infallible, and at some points in history it has been disastrous. However I think that John Paul II, Benedict and Francis are reading from the same page and have the same intent: to work for the kind of social change in Cuba that will lead to greater respect for human rights and that will secure for the Church the liberty she needs to carry out her mission.

Whether it works out this way, of course, we will not see until a couple more spins of the wheel. I myself am reserving judgment until I know better what faithful Catholics in Cuba have to say about it. However I think it is over-the-top to call it "satanic relations with Castro."

15 posted on 12/22/2014 3:02:23 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Lord, save Your people and bless Your inheritance; give victory to the faithful over their adversary)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I disagree. This doesn’t sound like wiggly jelly to me.


16 posted on 12/22/2014 3:07:32 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Since when did evangelization to Cubans — the general population — who have suffered enormously become Satanic?


17 posted on 12/22/2014 3:09:29 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Maybe people have short memories and are supercritical. I am mystified.


18 posted on 12/22/2014 3:11:52 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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“This is Christmas. Where’s his Christmas spirit? It all seems to be about him.”

No, this is the beginning of the new year - the new liturgical year just began four weeks ago and the new calendar year begins in a little over a week. It is also the first time this new liturgical year that almost all of the leaders of the Vatican were in the same room without some sort of overall agenda. This was the perfect time for the pope to say this. Christ - GOD - came into the world in the humble form of a baby. Why not smack the cardinals around a little to remind them of that at Christmas time so that they can be reminded that THEY ARE TO BE HUMBLE SEVANTS TOO?


19 posted on 12/22/2014 3:13:08 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: MarchonDC09122009

People post these threads because they want to know what’s going on in the Church. Nothing wrong with that.


20 posted on 12/22/2014 3:14:25 PM PST by vladimir998
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