While You’re Distracted, Humanum is Happening (HUGE Traditional Marriage Conf in Rome)

November 19th, 2014 | Erick Erickson

[Mrs. Don-o]

There are more important things in life than politics. One of those things is happening as I write. Most of the world is oblivious to it. The press corps has completely ignored it. But it may be one of the most consequential events in the early twenty-first century. It is called Humanum.

In Rome, at the Vatican, an interfaith gathering is occurring to discus marriage. Leading voices in the Buddhist, Jewish, Hindu, Mormon, Muslim, and Christian communities have gathered to support and strengthen each other in the struggle against growing anti-faith norms toward marriage and family. Pope Francis opened the gathering with a strong speech. Russell Moore of the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission of the Southern Baptist Convention spoke as did Rick Warren of Saddleback, whose speech earned a standing ovation.

The secular world and press have convinced themselves that Christians in the West are surrendering on marriage. They are not. While the mainline churches members of the press may attend are caving on the issue, the ever growing population of evangelicals in Europe and the Americas continue to hold firm on the definition of marriage. They are being joined globally by other Christians, the Church in Rome, and even other faiths.

Humanum is an exceptionally big deal largely ignored by the press. You should not ignore it. And if I could urge you to listen to one speech on the importance of heterosexual marriage and the nuclear family, it would be this from Dr. Rick Warren.

(Link below).

[Mrs. Don-o]

Will somebody tell me how to link a video?

THis is great, and all I can say is you can access it at

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[itsahoot]

Not politics? Surely you jest?

[CynicalBear]

>>In Rome, at the Vatican, an interfaith gathering is occurring to discus marriage. Leading voices in the Buddhist, Jewish, Hindu, Mormon, Muslim, and Christian communities have gathered<<

Observe the beginnings of the one world religion spearheaded by the Vatican.

[Tax-chick]

“Traditional marriage” has lost me.

[GeronL]

Rick Warren? seriously?

[GeronL]

what does that mean?

[dynachrome]

Right click on the embedded video and “get video url” (copy the link)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XF7cBeDZiM&list=PLZF6OmdXSyh6QBn-zjlLaolBW-zMvv0pg

[Tax-chick]

It means that if someone asked me for advice on their life choices, I’d suggest “old maid with cats.”

[GeronL]

lol

[metmom]

The problem seems to be finding a man who acts like a man these days.

I’ve seen too many young guys in their 20’s wearing skinny jeans.

They’ve bad enough on women, but on males, they are an absolute atrocity.

[GeronL]

I guess there is no problem finding a good woman then? They all want to be a Kardashian

[Tax-chick]

I agree, skinny jeans are an abomination on any person.

I don’t think the problem is either men or women. I think it’s marriage, rightly understood. I’ve been married almost 26 years, and I’ve tried to do everything I’m supposed to do for everyone, and it’s defeated me.

Yes, it’s a fallen world, so every human endeavor is going to tend to epic failure, but a person can choose the type of failure he’s going to pursue.

[metmom]

I wouldn’t know.

[usconservative]

Rick Warren? seriously?

Exactly. How can anyone take Rick "Chrislam" Warren seriously?

[metmom]

I don’t think the problem is either men or women. I think it’s marriage, rightly understood. I’ve been married almost 26 years, and I’ve tried to do everything I’m supposed to do for everyone, and it’s defeated me.

I hear you.

[piusv]

A similar object is aimed at by some, in those matters which concern the New Law promulgated by Christ our Lord. For since they hold it for certain that men destitute of all religious sense are very rarely to be found, they seem to have founded on that belief a hope that the nations, although they differ among themselves in certain religious matters, will without much difficulty come to agree as brethren in professing certain doctrines, which form as it were a common basis of the spiritual life. For which reason conventions, meetings and addresses are frequently arranged by these persons, at which a large number of listeners are present, and at which all without distinction are invited to join in the discussion, both infidels of every kind, and Christians, even those who have unhappily fallen away from Christ or who with obstinacy and pertinacity deny His divine nature and mission. Certainly such attempts can nowise be approved by Catholics, founded as they are on that false opinion which considers all religions to be more or less good and praiseworthy, since they all in different ways manifest and signify that sense which is inborn in us all, and by which we are led to God and to the obedient acknowledgment of His rule. Not only are those who hold this opinion in error and deceived, but also in distorting the idea of true religion they reject it, and little by little. turn aside to naturalism and atheism, as it is called; from which it clearly follows that one who supports those who hold these theories and attempt to realize them, is altogether abandoning the divinely revealed religion.

-Mortalium Animos, On Religious Unity, Pope Pius XI, 1928

[Tax-chick]

I’m not saying that I think marriage is anything other than what Christianity has traditionally taught ... just that, “You’re going to fail and look forward to dying,” isn’t exactly great advertising copy.

[SpirituTuo]

Oh, good grief.

[SpirituTuo]

From a different point of view, perhaps you are preserving in your vocation. Neither you, nor your spouse is perfect, but you do the best you can. If success equals perfection, then nobody will ever have any success. Rather, accepting that you are imperfect, as are those around, does two things.

First, it reminds you that you are not alone. Other people are going through the same things, and can relate. Secondly, it teaches humility. I know I am going to screw up from time to time. When it happens, I need others to be forgiving of me, and accept my apologies.

One last thought: you can’t please all the people all the time. If you try, you will go nuts. Do your best, sure. However, don’t beat yourself up too much when you needed to do more.

We may have great compassion for others, but may also have very little for ourselves.

[rabidralph]

Ma’am, you have a whole baseball team. I think it’s time to retire :-)