Posted on 11/19/2014 12:20:09 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o
I can think of a number of Catholics who would disagree with Sheen about Graham's character.
And on. And off. And on. And off.
And although more women have RA than men, it hits men, too.
So I wouldn't make the cheeriest assumptions about a 77-year-old man's joints, ligaments and tendons. It would be just, would it not? -- as well as charitable, to consider that he might miss a genuflection from joint pain rather than from denying the doctrine of Transubstantiation?
I never said Francis denied Transubstantiation, did I? Why do you try to put words in my mouth?
"Conclusion: Either he doesn’t believe in the Catholic doctrine of trans-substantiation or he would not fall on his knees as the author erroneously asserts." I don't know how I could have clicked on that and ended up addressing you. My befuzzled brain. Again, sorry.
Apology accepted. That post did surprise me.
“Religion is not the way; Jesus is.”
The Pope said this? If so, he ought to resign.
He has also said there is no need for other christians to convert to Catholicism.
“Bishop Fulton Sheen said that when Billy Graham died, the Catholic Church should declare him a saint. This was praise from one great evangelist to another”
Billy Graham had great things to say about Fulton Sheen and many of the Popes. He was especially fond of JP2, calling him the greatest moral voice of the 20th Century.
I am not familiar with the quote you cited where Sheen said the Catholic Church should canonize Billy Graham. You have a source?
Can’t wait for the two miracles.
It was 50 years ago or so. My memory is good, but not that good.
I’m not sure how any Catholic could “like” the fact that he said these things. It is not Catholic to cast aside the Catholic Faith as necessary. And no Catholic should defend it.
Aah....an incident of accidit infallibilita kicking in, leading and guiding the one *some* identify as being pope.
High 5, dude.
Perhaps some may be unaware that to reject a single article of the Credo ("We believe in one holy Catholic and apostolic church") is to apostatize.
"One Lord, one faith, one baptism". Ephesians 4:5
Someone's going to have to start praying to Billy Graham first. There was a thread last month(?) wherein the author speculated on whether questionable-Catholic so-and-so was in Heaven. The author concluded with him stating that he would start praying to this deceased individual, to see if any miracles might happen. Maybe you could do likewise in Graham's case.
Depends on what he meant by "religion." Some people take this as a synonym for empty external observance, and if so, he's saying no more or less than Jesus did. Jesus was quite the critic of religion. So were all the Prophets of Israel.
In any case, I would not judge anybody by a 7-word aphorism. Augustine said "Love, and then do what you will"--- another 7-word aphorism which could bear either a God-inspired meaning, or a disastrous counter-meaning.
Imagine if you will the head of the Catholic Church that does not believe in the teachings of the Catholic Church. A pope more popular with non-Catholics than Catholics.
There’s a signpost up ahead—next stop, the Bergoglio Zone.
Francis’ interview with “Il Messaggero”. The interview was published on June 29, 2014:
Question for Francis: “Why have you, from the very beginning, chosen to stress your role as the Bishop of Rome?”
Francis: “Francis’ first service is this: to be the Bishop of Rome.”
Question for Francis: “Where is Bergoglio’s Church headed?”
Francis: “Thank God, I have no Church; I follow Christ.”
Francis’ June 16, 2014 address to “His Grace” Justin Welby, the “Archbishop” of Canterbury:
“‘Behold, how good and how pleasant it is for brothers to dwell together in unity!’ (Ps 133:1) Once again we meet, Your Grace, as co-workers in the Lord’s vineyard and fellow pilgrims on the path to his Kingdom. I welcome you and the distinguished members of your delegation… We must walk together. Your Grace, I thank you once more for your visit. I ask the Lord to shower his blessings on your ministry and to sustain you and your loved ones in joy and peace. Amen.”
Francis’ June 16, 2014 address to “the diocese of Rome”:
“… the Church must do something, must change, must convert in order to become mother. She must be fruitful!… This is not a question of seeking to proselytize, no, no! To go ring the bell: ‘Would you like to come to this association called the Catholic Church?…’… The Church does not grow through proselytism…”
The Church doesn’t make saints. It confirms through proof of two miracles established by an international panel of experts and neutral scientists that a person who was praying to a particular individual was cured completely, of what the doctors called an incurable disease, and the cure must be complete and permanent. This is earthly confirmation that the person is in Heaven. It takes one miracle to achieve the status of “Blessed.” So far even Bishop Fulton J. Sheen has not attained the “Blessed” status. So good luck on Billy Graham.
Neither would I nor Blathernaut, but we all know we're not just talking about one teensty little 7 word phrase in the last two years.
Good to hear that. What I was responding to was this from BlatherNaut:
“Religion is not the way; Jesus is.”---
"The Pope said this? If so, he ought to resign."
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