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What is the Wrath of God?
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 10-27-14 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 10/27/2014 7:23:52 AM PDT by Salvation

What is the Wrath of God?

By: Msgr. Charles Pope

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In Yesterday’s (Sunday of the 30th Week) Mass there was a reference to the wrath of God and how only Jesus can save us from it. St Paul, writing to the Thessalonians, commends them who have turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God and to await his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, Jesus, who delivers us from the coming wrath (1 Thess 1:9-10). Well thank you, Jesus!

But what is God’s wrath? It is spoken of often in the scriptures and it is a concept with which we have to be careful. On the one hand we cannot simply dismiss the concept as contradictory to the fact that God is love. But neither can we deny God’s wrath as unfit in terms of His love.

It seems worthwhile to consider some aspects of the very complicated reality of the wrath of God. There is not enough space to cover the whole topic in this post, but the comments stay open, as always, for your additions and subtractions. What are some ways that we can explain and understand the wrath of God? Let me propose a few.

The wrath of God is not merely an Old Testament concept. In fact, it is mentioned quite frequently in the New Testament as well. For example, consider the following:

  1. Jesus said, “Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God’s wrath remains on him” (John 3:36).
  2. The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness (Rom 1:18).
  3. Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God’s wrath, for it is written: “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,” says the Lord (Rom 12:19).
  4. Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things [i.e. sexual immorality] God’s wrath comes on those who are disobedient (Eph 5:6).
  5. For God did not appoint us to suffer wrath but to receive salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ (1 Thess 5:9).
  6. The angel swung his sickle on the earth, gathered its grapes and threw them into the great winepress of God’s wrath (Rev 14:19).

There are at least a dozen other texts from the New Testament that could be referenced, but allow these to suffice. So it is clear that the “wrath of God” is not some ancient or primitive concept with which the New Testament has dispensed. And notice, too, that the wrath of God is not something simply for the end of the world. It is also spoken of as something already operative in certain people.

So again, what is God’s wrath? And how can we reconcile it with His love?  Consider some of the following images, explanations of God’s wrath. None of them alone explains it, but considered together an overall understanding may emerge.

  1. Image: God’s wrath is His passion to set things right. We see this image of God’s wrath right at the beginning in Genesis when God cursed Satan and uttered the protoevangelium (the first good news): I will make you and the woman enemies … one of her seed will crush your head while you strike at his heel” (Genesis 3:15). God is clearly angered at what sin has done to Adam and Eve and He continues to have anger whenever He beholds sin and injustice. He has a passion for our holiness. He wants what is best for us. He is angered by what hinders us in this regard. Surely all sins provoke His wrath, but there are five sins that especially cry out to Heaven: willful murder (Gen. 4:10), the sin of the Sodomites (Gen. 18:20; 19:13), the cry of the people oppressed (Ex. 3:7-10); the cry of the foreigner, the widow, and the orphan (Ex. 20:20-22), and injustice to the wage earner. (Deut. 24:14-5; Jas. 5:4) (cf Catechism of the Catholic Church # 1867). In terms of sin, injustice, and anything that afflicts or hinders the possibility of salvation, God has a wrathful indignation and a passion to set things right. This is part of His love for us. His wrath may be manifested through punishments, disturbances of our conscience, or simply by allowing us to experience the consequences of our sin and injustice.
  2. Clarification: God’s wrath is not like our anger. In saying that God is angry we ought to be careful to understand that however God experiences anger (or any passion), it is not tainted by sin. God is not angry the way we are angry. When we get angry we often experience an out-of-control quality; our temper flares and we often say and do things that are excessive if not sinful. It cannot pertain to God to have temper tantrums and to fly off the handle, to combine anger with an unreasonable lashing out. The way God does experience anger is not something we can fully understand but it is surely a sovereign and serene act of His will, not an out-of-control emotion.
  3. Clarification: God is not moody. It does not pertain to God to have good days and bad days, good moods and bad ones. Scripture seems clear enough when it indicates that God does not change. Consider this from the Book of James 1:17 Every good and perfect gift comes from above, from the Father of lights, in whom there is no variableness or shadow of turning. Hence to speak of God’s wrath does not mean that He has suddenly had enough or that His temper has flared, or that His mood has soured. God IS. He does not change. As the text says, He is not variable. And this leads us to the next image.
  4. Image: Given what we have said,  the primary location of God’s wrath is not in God; it is in us. Perhaps the best definition I have heard of God’s wrath is this: God’s wrath is our experience of the total incompatibility of our sinful state before the Holiness of God. Sin and God’s holiness just don’t mix. They can’t keep company. Think of fire and water. They do not mix. They cannot coexist in the same spot. Bring them together and you can hear the conflict. Think of water spilled on a hot stove and hear the sizzling and popping; see the steam rising as the water flees away. If, on the other hand, there is a lot of water, the fire is overwhelmed and extinguished. But the point is that they cannot coexist. They will conflict and one will win. This is wrath: the complete incompatibility of two things. It is this way between sin and God’s utter holiness. We must be purified before we can enter the presence of God otherwise we could never tolerate His glory. We would wail and grind our teeth and turn away in horror. The wrath is the conflict between our sin and God’s holiness. God cannot and will not change so we must be changed. Otherwise we experience wrath. But notice the experience is in us primarily and not God. God does not change; He is holy, serene; He is love. If we experience His wrath it is on account of us, not Him. Consider the next image.
  5. Image: It is we who change, not God and this causes wrath to be experienced or not. Consider the following example. On the ceiling of my bedroom is a light with a 100-watt light bulb. At night before bed I delight in the light. I am accustomed to it. But then at bed time I put out the light and go to sleep. When I awake it is still dark (at least in the winter). Hence I put the light on. But Ugh! Grrr! Now the light is bright and I curse it! Now, mind you, the light has not changed one bit. It is still the same 100-watt bulb it was hours earlier. The light is the same; it is I who have changed. But do you know what I do? I blame the light and say, “That light is harsh!” But the light is not harsh; it is just the same as when I was happy with it. Now that I have changed I experience its wrath but the wrath is really in me. So also consider the experience of the ancient family of man with God. Adam and Eve walked with God in the cool of the evening when the dew collected on the grass (cf Gen 3:8).  They had a warm friendship with Him and did not fear His presence. After sinning, they hid. Had God changed? He had not; they had, and they now experienced him very differently. Fast forward to another theophany. God had come to Mt Sinai and as He descended the people were terrified for there were peals of thunder, lightning, clouds, and the loud blast of a trumpet. The people told Moses “You speak to us, but let not God speak, else we will die!” (Ex 20:19) God, too, warned Moses that the people could not get close lest His wrath be vented upon them (Ex 19:20-25). Now again, had God changed? No, he had not. He was the same God who walked with them in the cool of the evening in a most intimate way. It was we who had changed. We had lost the holiness without which no one can see the Lord (Heb 12:14). The same God, unchanged though He was, now seemed to us frightening and wrathful.
  6. What then shall we do? If we can allow the image of fire to remain before us we may well find a hopeful sign in God’s providence. Since God is a holy fire, a consuming fire (cf Heb 12:26; Is 33:14), how can we possibly come into His presence? How can we avoid the wrath that would destroy us? Well, what is the only thing that survives in the presence of fire? Fire is the only thing that survives! So it looks as if we’d better become fire if we want to see God. And thus it was that God sent tongues of fire upon the Apostles and upon us at our Confirmation. God wants to set you and me on fire with the Holy Spirit and in holiness. God wants to bring us up to the temperature of glory so that we can stand in His presence: See, I will send my messenger, who will prepare the way before me. Then suddenly the Lord you are seeking will come to his temple; the messenger of the covenant, whom you desire, will come,” says the LORD Almighty.  But who can endure the day of his coming? Who can stand when he appears? For he will be like a refiner’s fire or a launderer’s soap. He will sit as a refiner and purifier of silver; he will purify the Levites and refine them like gold and silver. Then the LORD will have men who will bring offerings in righteousness, and the offerings of Judah and Jerusalem will be acceptable to the LORD, as in days gone by, as in former years (Mal 3:1-4). And indeed Jesus has now come: For you have  turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God, and to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead—Jesus, who rescues us from the coming wrath (1 Thess 1:10-11).

So there is a “wrath of God.” As I have tried to show, it is more in us than it is in God. But I will not say to you that there is NO wrath IN God. Scripture seems clear to indicate that wrath does pertain to God’s inner life. What exactly it is and how God experiences it  is mysterious to us. We can say to some extent what it is not (as we did above) but we cannot really say what it is exactly. But far more rich is the meditation that the wrath of God is essentially in us. It is OUR experience of the incompatibility of sin before God. We must be washed clean in the Blood of the Lamb and purified. Most of us will need purification in Purgatory, too. But if we let the Lord work His saving work we are saved from the wrath, for we are made holy and set on fire with God’s love. And fire never fears the presence of fire. God is love, but He will not change. So it is that love must change us.

One of the greatest cinematic depictions of the wrath of God occurred in the move the Raiders of the Lost Ark. The Nazis sinfully think they can open the Ark and endure the presence of God. What they get is wrath, for sin cannot endure the reality of God’s presence. “Enjoy” this clip:

Video -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0APF3SO9tqE



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But if we let the Lord work His saving work we are saved from the wrath, for we are made holy and set on fire with God’s love. And fire never fears the presence of fire. God is love, but He will not change. So it is that love must change us.
1 posted on 10/27/2014 7:23:52 AM PDT by Salvation
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Monsignor Pope Ping!


2 posted on 10/27/2014 7:24:37 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

I believe that the wrath of God will be expended on the great Day of the Lord. It is mentioned all through the Old Testament.


3 posted on 10/27/2014 7:29:18 AM PDT by Slyfox (To put on the mind of George Washington read ALL of Deuteronomy 28, then read his Farewell Address)
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To: Salvation

If we keep going down the path we are headed,I think we are going to find out exactly what the wrath of God is all about.

We are watching the 30 second preview trailer of then main attraction of coming events unfolding before our eyes.


4 posted on 10/27/2014 7:33:30 AM PDT by rdcbn
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To: Salvation

Fictional?


5 posted on 10/27/2014 7:41:17 AM PDT by southernmann
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To: rdcbn

We are seeing the start of it now.


6 posted on 10/27/2014 7:42:56 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Resolute Conservative

We’re already seeing it.

If you read Romans 1, you’ll see the phrase
“The wrath of God is revealed from heaven as...”

and then a list of what we’re seeing in our society today.


7 posted on 10/27/2014 7:44:49 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

That does about sum it up.


8 posted on 10/27/2014 7:52:39 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: southernmann

What are you saying is fictional?


9 posted on 10/27/2014 8:14:20 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Awesome series of movies. I used them at a Confirmation retreat.


10 posted on 10/27/2014 8:19:43 AM PDT by defconw (Both parties have clearly lost their minds!)
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To: Salvation

That the wrath of God may not really exist. How would anyone know they were really experiencing it?


11 posted on 10/27/2014 8:25:21 AM PDT by southernmann
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We will know, and we will be on our knees begging for God’s mercy.

Have you not read the Book of Revelation?


12 posted on 10/27/2014 8:28:31 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Yes, but I don’t believe it.


13 posted on 10/27/2014 8:33:28 AM PDT by southernmann
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To: Salvation

The Wrath of God, merely is His allowing us to exercise our own free will which facilitates either our denying His existence or providing us with the feeling of being unworthy of and our blocking ourselves from receiving His Unconditional Love.

We do create the perception of our reality and judge it as good or bad. In the higher sense, nothing is good or bad, it just “IS.”


14 posted on 10/27/2014 8:35:40 AM PDT by tired&retired
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To: tired&retired

In the higher sense...”it’s all relative”


15 posted on 10/27/2014 9:03:02 AM PDT by southernmann
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To: Salvation

His wrath is His judgment.


16 posted on 10/27/2014 9:03:04 AM PDT by Hattie
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To: southernmann

Your loss.


17 posted on 10/27/2014 9:12:38 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

I’m sure you’re not the only one that believes that.


18 posted on 10/27/2014 9:29:00 AM PDT by southernmann
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To: Salvation

Has a correlation to the FEAR of the LORD being the beginning of wisdom.

I do agree with the different expressions of the wrath of God as revealed in the list of scripture references from New and Old Testaments but I really don’t see the full extent of the wrath of God within myself when I sin. I see the consequence of the sin as discipline from a loving Father and as a child of God knowing He loves me (like Adam and Eve who walked with Him)but in that discipline is His lovingkindness.

Using Romans 1 as the ultimate expression of the wrath of God against pagans who reject Him may be His means of showing them His disdain for them (read Proverbs 1:20-33) during their lifetime but God does view history and human participation in corporate sin in a way only He can.

In the “last days” of great sin before the reign of the Messiah, God’s wrath poured out on earth from the bowls is judgment of those on earth who worship the image of the beast and have his mark, for vengeance for the shed blood of the innocent, the saints, and the prophets.

This leads me to ask a question. If we suffer now, sacrifice now, our reward will come while in heaven. THEREFORE, for those who sin and suffer now, is there judgment and the experience of God’s wrath less in hell? Do those on earth who suffer the full wrath of God poured from the bowls suffer less in hell than the rest of the pagans who did not? Just wondering.


19 posted on 10/27/2014 9:32:21 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: southernmann

How is it possible TO HAVE unbelief in the face of extraordinary complexities of our human BODY?

NOT TO MENTION THE DIVERSITY OF LIFE IN THE WORLD.
There is a seed, I hold in my hand, Plant and water it and with time a seedling GROWS and over the years a huge tree appears! WHERE DOES IT COME FROM?

WHEN OUR BODY IS CUT IT GROWS BACK TOGETHER. how?
THE AMAZING UNDOABLE COMPLEXITY OF OUR PLANET IS STUNNING..

Nothing is too hard for God. Those that do not seek Him or come to know Him are missing faith, and understanding how the world works, Pray to God to come and live in you, as you seek to grow in faith, and sincere truth, and trust in Jesus name, Hallelujah! Amen.


20 posted on 10/27/2014 9:40:44 AM PDT by geologist ("If you love me, keep my commands" .... John 14 :15)
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