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Pope Francis to Schoenstatt movement: Marriage never been attacked so much as now
http://en.radiovaticana.va ^ | October 25, 2014 | Vatican Radio

Posted on 10/25/2014 4:22:33 PM PDT by NKP_Vet

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1 posted on 10/25/2014 4:22:33 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet

MSM deeply saddened


2 posted on 10/25/2014 4:28:00 PM PDT by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right)
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To: NKP_Vet; vladimir998
Pope Francis said the institution of Christian marriage has never been attacked so much as nowadays where a temporary or throw-away culture has become widespread.

Francis should know, he's been attacking the Sacrament of Marriage ever since his plane ride back from World Yute Day.

3 posted on 10/25/2014 4:28:05 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

I was gonna ask is he mixing meds or is he an untreated bipolar


4 posted on 10/25/2014 4:30:31 PM PDT by Cats Pajamas (Wonder what Slick and Cankles did with the rent a dogs now they have grandbaby for optics?)
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To: NKP_Vet
He stressed that the first revolution or way of renewing the Church is through inner holiness and that counts far more than more external ways such as reforming the Curia and the Vatican bank.

Then why the push to promote the strange new doctrine of Cardinal Kasper? Francis' words contradict his actions. Does he imagine that inner holiness and relaxation of Church discipline go hand in hand?

5 posted on 10/25/2014 4:31:29 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: NKP_Vet

Can Benedict get his old job back?


6 posted on 10/25/2014 4:34:44 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: Cats Pajamas

This is a report of the pope’s actual words in context...something we don’t get from American media. The distortions are not coming from the pope. Someone else is responsible.

O2


7 posted on 10/25/2014 4:35:19 PM PDT by omegatoo (You know you'll get your money's worth...become a monthly donor!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I wish.


8 posted on 10/25/2014 4:36:24 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("PRO FIDE, PRO UTILITATE HOMINUM")
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To: ebb tide

Such bs you state....likr mundabor. He has changed nothing. Have faith and as well open your eyes. You spin what the media spins.


9 posted on 10/25/2014 4:50:06 PM PDT by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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To: NKP_Vet

If he tacitly supports gay marriage, then Francis is part of the problem vs. the solution.


10 posted on 10/25/2014 4:55:28 PM PDT by rbg81
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“revolution”? “renewing”?

Francis doesn’t seem happy with his “church”, does he?


11 posted on 10/25/2014 4:57:28 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide; Religion Moderator

I told you to stop pinging me to threads now at least three times. What part of that do YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?


12 posted on 10/25/2014 5:20:42 PM PDT by vladimir998
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13 posted on 10/25/2014 5:21:53 PM PDT by SkyDancer (I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am)
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To: rbg81; NKP_Vet
Yeah, and he has such a devious way of supporting gay marriage!

Breaking News:

Marriage still Marriage.

Pope still Catholic.

Details at 11.

14 posted on 10/25/2014 5:58:04 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("The Holy Catholic Church: the more Holy she is, the more Catholic she is.")
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To: SkyDancer

Somebody you know?


15 posted on 10/25/2014 5:59:49 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Point of interrogation.)
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To: NKP_Vet
>>the Church has always been that way and is constantly reforming itself.<<

Hmmmmmmm!

16 posted on 10/25/2014 6:04:00 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

At the end of these Prince Charming movies you don’t get to see the “Lived Happily Ever After” ... sort of being a bit comedic .... but in a way, yeah ....


17 posted on 10/25/2014 6:06:41 PM PDT by SkyDancer (I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am)
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To: Cats Pajamas

Dementia maybe.


18 posted on 10/25/2014 6:09:19 PM PDT by Kackikat (Two wrongs do NOT make a right.... unless you are a Democrat!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“Pope Francis is fond of ‘creating a mess.’ Mission accomplished,” American Bishop Thomas Tobin said.

Bishop Tobin argued against what he called the pope’s suggestion that the Church “accommodate the needs of the age.” If that happens, he wrote, “the Church risks the danger of losing its courageous, counter-cultural, prophetic voice, a voice that the world needs to hear.”

Pope John Paul II and Benedict XVI proscribed Liberation Theology as a beachhead of Marxists into the Catholic Church. As soon as Pope Francis took power, he welcomed back to the Church the leaders of the Marxist Liberation Theology. QUO O VADIS, FRANCIS?

By order of H.H. John Paul II, the Prefect of The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Joseph Ratzinger, published on August 6, 1984, the INSTRUCTION ON CERTAIN ASPECTS OF THE "THEOLOGY OF LIBERATION" alerting the faithful about the dangers of the mixing of Marxism with the Gospels.

“The present Instruction has a much more limited and precise purpose: to draw the attention of pastors, theologians, and all the faithful to the deviations, and risks of deviation, damaging to the faith and to Christian living, that are brought about by certain forms of liberation theology which use, in an insufficiently critical manner, concepts borrowed from various currents of Marxist thought.”

9."Let us recall the fact that atheism and the denial of the human person, his liberty and rights, are at the core of the Marxist theory. This theory, then, contains errors which directly threaten the truths of the faith regarding the eternal destiny of individual persons. Moreover, to attempt to integrate into theology an analysis whose criterion of interpretation depends on this atheistic conception is to involve oneself in terrible contradictions. What is more, this misunderstanding of the spiritual nature of the person leads to a total subordination of the person to the collectivity, and thus to the denial of the principles of a social and political life which is in keeping with human dignity."

When H.H. Pope Paul VI saw how Vatican II was separated from its original intend, with heartbroken words said: “It seems like smoke from Hell penetrated through the windows of the Vatican.” It seems that now the smoke from Hell entered the Church embraced to the “liberation theology.”

In the 2005 Conclave Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger was elected as Benedict XVI. During the Conclave the powerful Cardinal Martini –the “Pope of the Liberal Catholics” -tried his outmost to get elected the Argentinian Jesuit, Cardinal Bergoglio.

Cardinal Martini was for Pope Francis, what Saul Alinsky was for Obama.

http://on-this-rock.blogspot.com/2012/09/cardinal-martini-pope-of-liberal.html

Cardinal Martini of Milan was for abortion, same sex marriage, condoms in Africa, etc. In his last interview before his passing, the Cardinal famously noted that the Church is 200 years behind the times.

William Doino on First Things blog has a lovely response: Father John Holloway said: “Cardinal Martini was vastly underestimating the situation. The Church is not 200 years out of date—it is 2,000 years out of date, and will remain so, for the eternal truths of Jesus Christ are timeless and not subject to the trends of any particular age, however “forward” it thinks it is.”

19 posted on 10/25/2014 6:57:20 PM PDT by Dqban22
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To: omegatoo
This is a report of the pope’s actual words in context...something we don’t get from American media. The distortions are not coming from the pope. Someone else is responsible.
O2

Are you implying that our media DISTORTS what the Pope says?
That's the understatement of the month.
Thank you for that statement of TRUTH.

Why do so many NON-Catholics CARE about what the Pope says? WHY do they even listen to him if they don't believe what he says?
I don't get it.

20 posted on 10/25/2014 7:18:48 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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