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Pope Francis to Schoenstatt movement: Marriage never been attacked so much as now
http://en.radiovaticana.va ^ | October 25, 2014 | Vatican Radio

Posted on 10/25/2014 4:22:33 PM PDT by NKP_Vet

(Vatican Radio) Pope Francis said the institution of Christian marriage has never been attacked so much as nowadays where a temporary or throw-away culture has become widespread. He said marriage should not be seen just a social rite and urged priests to stay close to couples and especially children experiencing the trauma of a family break-up. The Pope was replying to questions put to him on a range of topics during an audience with more than 7000 pilgrims belonging to the Schoenstatt movement, an international Marian and apostolic organization that is celebrating the 100th anniversary of its founding in Germany. The movement now embraces members, both lay and clerics, from dozens of nations around the world.

Mistaken views about marriage and its true meaning, our temporary or throw-away culture, the need to be courageous and daring, Mary’s missionary role, the disunity of the Devil and why the concept of solidarity is under attack. These were just some of the wide-ranging issues which Pope Francis spoke about in his off-the-cuff remarks during the question and answer session with the Schoenstatt pilgrims held in the Vatican’s Paul VI Audience Hall on Saturday.

Asked about marriage and what advice he can offer to those who don’t feel welcome in the Church, Pope Francis stressed the need for priests to stay close to each one of their flock without becoming scandalized over what takes place within the family. He said a bishop during the recent Synod on the family asked whether priests are aware of what children feel and the psychological damage caused when their parents separate? The Pope noted how sometimes in these cases the parent who is separating ends up living at home only part-time with the children which he described as a “new and totally destructive” form of co-habitation.

He said the Christian family and marriage have never been so attacked as they are nowadays because of growing relativism over the concept of the sacrament of marriage. When it comes to preparing for marriage, Pope Francis said all too often there is a misunderstanding over the difference between the sacrament of marriage and the social rite. Marriage is for ever, he said, but in our present society there is a temporary or throw-away culture that has become widespread.

Turning to the missionary role of Mary, the Pope reminded people that nobody can search for faith without the help of Mary, the Mother of God, saying a Church without Mary is like an orphanage. When questioned as to how he maintains a sense of joy and hope despite the many problems and wars in our world, Pope Francis replied that he uses prayer, trust, courage and daring. To dare is a grace, he said, and a prayer without courage or daring is a prayer that doesn’t work.

Asked about reform of the Church, the Pope said people describe him as a revolutionary but went on to point out that the Church has always been that way and is constantly reforming itself. He stressed that the first revolution or way of renewing the Church is through inner holiness and that counts far more than more external ways such as reforming the Curia and the Vatican bank. Pope Francis also spoke about the importance of having a freedom of spirit and warned against closing ourselves up in a mass of rules and regulations, thus becoming a caricature of the doctors of law.

The theme of our throw-away society was also touched on again by the Pope in another reply when he said our present-day culture is one that destroys the human bonds that bind us together. And in this context, he continued, one word that is at risk of dying in our society is 'solidarity' and this is also a symptom of our inability to forge alliances. Pope Francis also warned about the Devil, stressing that he exists and that his first weapon is disunity.


TOPICS: Current Events; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: divorce
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1 posted on 10/25/2014 4:22:33 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet

MSM deeply saddened


2 posted on 10/25/2014 4:28:00 PM PDT by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right)
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To: NKP_Vet; vladimir998
Pope Francis said the institution of Christian marriage has never been attacked so much as nowadays where a temporary or throw-away culture has become widespread.

Francis should know, he's been attacking the Sacrament of Marriage ever since his plane ride back from World Yute Day.

3 posted on 10/25/2014 4:28:05 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

I was gonna ask is he mixing meds or is he an untreated bipolar


4 posted on 10/25/2014 4:30:31 PM PDT by Cats Pajamas (Wonder what Slick and Cankles did with the rent a dogs now they have grandbaby for optics?)
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To: NKP_Vet
He stressed that the first revolution or way of renewing the Church is through inner holiness and that counts far more than more external ways such as reforming the Curia and the Vatican bank.

Then why the push to promote the strange new doctrine of Cardinal Kasper? Francis' words contradict his actions. Does he imagine that inner holiness and relaxation of Church discipline go hand in hand?

5 posted on 10/25/2014 4:31:29 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: NKP_Vet

Can Benedict get his old job back?


6 posted on 10/25/2014 4:34:44 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: Cats Pajamas

This is a report of the pope’s actual words in context...something we don’t get from American media. The distortions are not coming from the pope. Someone else is responsible.

O2


7 posted on 10/25/2014 4:35:19 PM PDT by omegatoo (You know you'll get your money's worth...become a monthly donor!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I wish.


8 posted on 10/25/2014 4:36:24 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("PRO FIDE, PRO UTILITATE HOMINUM")
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To: ebb tide

Such bs you state....likr mundabor. He has changed nothing. Have faith and as well open your eyes. You spin what the media spins.


9 posted on 10/25/2014 4:50:06 PM PDT by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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To: NKP_Vet

If he tacitly supports gay marriage, then Francis is part of the problem vs. the solution.


10 posted on 10/25/2014 4:55:28 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: BlatherNaut

“revolution”? “renewing”?

Francis doesn’t seem happy with his “church”, does he?


11 posted on 10/25/2014 4:57:28 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide; Religion Moderator

I told you to stop pinging me to threads now at least three times. What part of that do YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?


12 posted on 10/25/2014 5:20:42 PM PDT by vladimir998
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13 posted on 10/25/2014 5:21:53 PM PDT by SkyDancer (I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am)
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To: rbg81; NKP_Vet
Yeah, and he has such a devious way of supporting gay marriage!

Breaking News:

Marriage still Marriage.

Pope still Catholic.

Details at 11.

14 posted on 10/25/2014 5:58:04 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("The Holy Catholic Church: the more Holy she is, the more Catholic she is.")
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To: SkyDancer

Somebody you know?


15 posted on 10/25/2014 5:59:49 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Point of interrogation.)
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To: NKP_Vet
>>the Church has always been that way and is constantly reforming itself.<<

Hmmmmmmm!

16 posted on 10/25/2014 6:04:00 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

At the end of these Prince Charming movies you don’t get to see the “Lived Happily Ever After” ... sort of being a bit comedic .... but in a way, yeah ....


17 posted on 10/25/2014 6:06:41 PM PDT by SkyDancer (I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am)
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To: Cats Pajamas

Dementia maybe.


18 posted on 10/25/2014 6:09:19 PM PDT by Kackikat (Two wrongs do NOT make a right.... unless you are a Democrat!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“Pope Francis is fond of ‘creating a mess.’ Mission accomplished,” American Bishop Thomas Tobin said.

Bishop Tobin argued against what he called the pope’s suggestion that the Church “accommodate the needs of the age.” If that happens, he wrote, “the Church risks the danger of losing its courageous, counter-cultural, prophetic voice, a voice that the world needs to hear.”

Pope John Paul II and Benedict XVI proscribed Liberation Theology as a beachhead of Marxists into the Catholic Church. As soon as Pope Francis took power, he welcomed back to the Church the leaders of the Marxist Liberation Theology. QUO O VADIS, FRANCIS?

By order of H.H. John Paul II, the Prefect of The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Joseph Ratzinger, published on August 6, 1984, the INSTRUCTION ON CERTAIN ASPECTS OF THE "THEOLOGY OF LIBERATION" alerting the faithful about the dangers of the mixing of Marxism with the Gospels.

“The present Instruction has a much more limited and precise purpose: to draw the attention of pastors, theologians, and all the faithful to the deviations, and risks of deviation, damaging to the faith and to Christian living, that are brought about by certain forms of liberation theology which use, in an insufficiently critical manner, concepts borrowed from various currents of Marxist thought.”

9."Let us recall the fact that atheism and the denial of the human person, his liberty and rights, are at the core of the Marxist theory. This theory, then, contains errors which directly threaten the truths of the faith regarding the eternal destiny of individual persons. Moreover, to attempt to integrate into theology an analysis whose criterion of interpretation depends on this atheistic conception is to involve oneself in terrible contradictions. What is more, this misunderstanding of the spiritual nature of the person leads to a total subordination of the person to the collectivity, and thus to the denial of the principles of a social and political life which is in keeping with human dignity."

When H.H. Pope Paul VI saw how Vatican II was separated from its original intend, with heartbroken words said: “It seems like smoke from Hell penetrated through the windows of the Vatican.” It seems that now the smoke from Hell entered the Church embraced to the “liberation theology.”

In the 2005 Conclave Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger was elected as Benedict XVI. During the Conclave the powerful Cardinal Martini –the “Pope of the Liberal Catholics” -tried his outmost to get elected the Argentinian Jesuit, Cardinal Bergoglio.

Cardinal Martini was for Pope Francis, what Saul Alinsky was for Obama.

http://on-this-rock.blogspot.com/2012/09/cardinal-martini-pope-of-liberal.html

Cardinal Martini of Milan was for abortion, same sex marriage, condoms in Africa, etc. In his last interview before his passing, the Cardinal famously noted that the Church is 200 years behind the times.

William Doino on First Things blog has a lovely response: Father John Holloway said: “Cardinal Martini was vastly underestimating the situation. The Church is not 200 years out of date—it is 2,000 years out of date, and will remain so, for the eternal truths of Jesus Christ are timeless and not subject to the trends of any particular age, however “forward” it thinks it is.”

19 posted on 10/25/2014 6:57:20 PM PDT by Dqban22
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To: omegatoo
This is a report of the pope’s actual words in context...something we don’t get from American media. The distortions are not coming from the pope. Someone else is responsible.
O2

Are you implying that our media DISTORTS what the Pope says?
That's the understatement of the month.
Thank you for that statement of TRUTH.

Why do so many NON-Catholics CARE about what the Pope says? WHY do they even listen to him if they don't believe what he says?
I don't get it.

20 posted on 10/25/2014 7:18:48 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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