[BlatherNaut]

Ping!

[Bryanw92]

>>God’s laws are meant to lead all people to Christ and his glory, and if they do not, then they are obsolete

As a former United Methodist, I know what that statement is code for. I’ve heard many liberal clergy use that as the lead-in to calls for “reconciliation” and “inclusiveness”.

[samtheman]

This argument is leading up to an as-yet-unstated conclusion.

[mountainlion]

Aren’t people supposed to lead people to Jesus? Hasn’t the law been done away with?

[Pompah]

So, He’s the leader of the Catholic Church, ?
or the Supposed leader of all mankind. Hmmm...

[SoConPubbie]

Sorry Pope, my Bible teaches me that God is perfect, and his laws are unchangeable.

[Steve_Seattle]

"Am I at a standstill or am I a person on a journey?"

Sounds like a blurb on the cover of a New Age book.

[Raycpa]

Sounds very like “never put a period where God put a comma” type theology but stops just short of it.

[LukeL]

Without conviction of your sins, via the law the power of the Holy Spirit is useless. It is like a person dying of cancer who is convinced they are healthy, they feel they have no need for chemo or surgery.

[Steve_Seattle]

One statement by Jesus that Francis seems unaware of is, “Let your yes be yes, and your no be no. Anything else is of the Devil.” (That quote is by memory, so may not be exact.) Francis seems to be the master of the ambiguous comment, comments which simultaneously seem to affirm traditional doctrine and to undermine it.

[Raycpa]

Christ Came to Fulfill the Law

17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished. 19 Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.

[Bryan24]

I take it the pope never read Galatians 1:8

[Zionist Conspirator]

All this is the end result of branding the Holy Torah a “temporary preparation.”

[Darteaus94025]

When laws conflict with the Bible, they are Satanic!

[Alex Murphy]

God's laws are meant to lead all people to Christ and his glory, and if they do not, then they are obsolete, Pope Francis said in a morning homily. In fact, the scholars of the law in Jesus' day were so wrapped up in doctrine as an end in itself, they were unable to see that Jesus was leading people down a new and surprising path toward his glory, the pope said Oct. 13 during his morning Mass in the Domus Sanctae Marthae, where he lives. Jesus did "strange things," like "walk with sinners, eat with tax collectors" -- things the scholars of the law "did not like; doctrine was in danger, that doctrine of the law" that they and the "theologians had created over the centuries," he said, according to Vatican Radio.

PFL

[Old Yeller]

If the Law could save, then Jesus died for nothing.

Galatians 2:21 (NIV)
I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!

[buridan]

“God’s laws are meant to lead all people to Christ and his glory, and if they do not, then they are obsolete . . ..”

It’s hard to believe he said this. If the laws are really God’s, how can they properly be changed.

Moreover, there is the question of what coming to Christ actually means. If it is possible without following any laws or rules that might get in the way, are we left with the counsel to love God and do what you will — perhaps with loving God finally interpreted as doing what you will?

[plain talk]

God's laws are meant to lead all people to Christ and his glory, and if they do not, then they are obsolete, Pope Francis said in a morning homily.

So does this mean that ... God changed his mind? Maybe it means that if men of free will choose to not follow the laws that the laws need to be changed to be made more agreeable to sinful men?

When these cardinals elected him Pope surely they knew what he was like as he must have been shooting his mouth off all his life, right? It leads me to wonder if this was planned by leftists in the Catholic Church to put a loose cannon in there to shake things up

[Unam Sanctam]

There is a difference between the minute regulations of the Pharisees and the moral laws at stake today in the Catholic Church. God’s moral laws don’t change. And affirming people in sin, which is what “gradualism” and saying only nice things will do in practice at least, doesn’t lead them to Jesus.

[onona]

I’ll agree with that headline