Posted on 09/06/2014 2:30:30 PM PDT by NYer
That makes no sense at all. Are you fricking nuts? Does anyone really pay attention to your insane rants? Your god is of this world and is not my God.
“That makes no sense at all.”
Sure it does.
“Are you fricking nuts?”
Not in the least.
“Does anyone really pay attention to your insane rants?”
I’ve never posted one, and you would be surprised how many people do read and support my posts here.
“Your god is of this world and is not my God.”
No, my God is the only God - the Trinity - and He and His Church are pro-marriage, pro-children, against birth control and against in vitro procedures. God wants men and women to make children in a loving physical union and not through a lab tech in a Petri dish.
I got a question do they have morality clause at the school if morality clause contract forget teacher you are done
But you yourself are making my point here. You said, "What I don’t get is the PROCESS of conception seems to be so very important-——rape is a process."
But I presume you'd say that it IS VERY important that you do not use a morally objectionable process. Such as --- your example -- rape.
It's not a question of whether the children are good. The children are good, period --- whether or not they are smart, cute, funny, or future conservatives. A child is good per se, no matter what the circumstances of his begetting and birthing.
But the separate and distinct thing we want to consider, is whether the way in which he was conceived is good.
Because --- as you and I know, as everybody knows --- there are regrettable ways that a child can be conceived, and we can find some of those ways morally objectionable, even if we would find the child a sheer delight.
Children are conceived by silly drunk foolin' around by college students, by prostitution, by reproductive concubinage (surrogacy), by rape, by artificial insemination of single women and lesbians, in acts of anger, in acts of greed, in acts of sexual jihad, in acts of marital deception, in laboratory procedures linked to commercial transactions.
About that last one: is it not true that the IVF lab/clinic would consider it their "ethical" responsibility to discard any human zygote they found to be affectd by some sort of defect, before implantation?
And is it not true that IVF produces offspring which are regarded by law as property rather than as persons? (If you have any doubts, take a good hard look at the
Is it not true that, as a result, human embryos can legally be bought, sold, bequeathed to somebody as part of an estate, manipulated with intentionally lethal results, given away, regarded as a tortuous offense in a wrongful birth case, stored like a dubious package at the back of the freezer, or discarded?
We can affirm the God-Blessed existence of the child, without approving of the way he was conceived.
"Reproductive circumstances" and "valuing the child" are two separate issues.
Everyone can sincerely wish IVF parents and their children well, without thinking the laboratory concoction and/or commercial reproduction of children is a good thing.
And is it not true that IVF produces offspring which are regarded by law as property rather than as persons? (If you have any doubts, take a good hard look at the "Davis vs Davis" Maryville TN embryo case (LINK)
LOL!
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The Catholic church is against in vitro fertilization? >>
yes, it most certainly is.
Check your etymology
By the way, even "birth control" --- having some responsible controle over the timing and/or number of births in one's family--- in iself can be good or bad, dpending both on one's motives and one's methods.
If one has a good motive --- such as, avoiding pregnancy because of an inability to care for more children --- it's important to use a moraly good method, one that doesn't intentionally impairing or disable a healthy person (which is a pretty plain violation of medical ethics.) A really good choice would be learning how to cooperate with natural physiological patterns in order to space conceptions responsibly, or forego conception altogether if necessary.
What about if the sperm donor is the woman’s husband? That’s not okay?
Well, we all have our views. If you came to my home, you will understand. I am US Marine, infantry , later attached to air wing. I can tell you this, I know “he’ll fire” was rained down on people of this earth. I don’t lose sleep over that either. As a matter of fact, I look in in mirror and my reflection winks back, I’m ok with myself.
I will never ever for one moment in any life have one ounce doubt what I did for my family.
Have a good one.
Go on
Exactly, this lady sounds like sour grapes. No one needs to know about ones reproductive issues. Just like hemroids.
In regards to my families choices, I stand by them. We all have our scrupples to deal with. I chose my life mate , my wife, over everything else. I serve my wife and family before anything else in this universe. My kids never need to know how the suasuge was made.
I am the guyfromjrz, and I approve of this message.
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Yes, she had to endure through her naval, twice, for appropriate swim lanes, a procedure.
It tore her apart.
You should try it.
Maybe I don’t express myself very well,but I’m on your side.
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