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Pope Francis to UN delegation: “legitimate redistribution of economic benefits by the State”
WDTPRS ^ | May 9, 2014 | Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

Posted on 05/09/2014 1:56:14 PM PDT by NYer

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To: NYer

On faith and morals I will follow him to my dying day, on this and other matters, I will listen politely and then do what my conscience dictates.


41 posted on 05/10/2014 3:57:08 AM PDT by verga (When protestants post scripture I am reminded that even the devil can quote scripture.)
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Ditto!


42 posted on 05/10/2014 6:25:53 AM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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To: NKP_Vet

I know that he has said some good things also. But a caller on Savage last night cited Pope Leo’s encyclycal on wealth creation. THIS Pope Leo really understood propaganda about income and wealth disparity.
I think that the major difficulty that I have with Pope Francis is that he sounds just like Obama when he speaks on economic matters. You know, like wealth has dropped from the sky mystically, like manna! Bob


43 posted on 05/10/2014 10:03:04 AM PDT by alstewartfan (Down the legions of years the invaders have taken this land And bent you to their will. Al Stewart)
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To: NKP_Vet

Another problem: According to Savage, who gets things wrong sometimes, is that this pope is stacking the College of Cardinals with clergy from Marxist nations. I know, you could say that with Maobama in the WH, America could also be considered Communist now. Bob


44 posted on 05/10/2014 10:08:41 AM PDT by alstewartfan (Down the legions of years the invaders have taken this land And bent you to their will. Al Stewart)
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To: Understand the stimulus

The Pope’s views on economics are his own, not official policy of the Roman Catholic Church. His views are also the same as JP2 and B16. But they didn’t go off the cuff all the time making strange comments just for the hell of it.


45 posted on 05/10/2014 10:45:43 AM PDT by NKP_Vet ("It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died;we should thank God that such men lived" ~ Patton)
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“Pope Francis is fond of ‘creating a mess.’ Mission accomplished,” American Bishop Thomas Tobin said.

Bishop Tobin argued against what he called the pope’s suggestion that the Church “accommodate the needs of the age.” If that happens, he wrote, “the Church risks the danger of losing its courageous, counter-cultural, prophetic voice, a voice that the world needs to hear.”

Pope John Paul II and Benedict XVI proscribed Liberation Theology as a beachhead of Marxists into the Catholic Church. As soon as Pope Francis took power, he welcomed back to the Church the leaders of the Marxist Liberation Theology. QUO O VADIS, FRANCIS?

By order of H.H. John Paul II, the Prefect of The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Joseph Ratzinger, published on August 6, 1984, the INSTRUCTION ON CERTAIN ASPECTS OF THE "THEOLOGY OF LIBERATION" alerting the faithful about the dangers of the mixing of Marxism with the Gospels.

“The present Instruction has a much more limited and precise purpose: to draw the attention of pastors, theologians, and all the faithful to the deviations, and risks of deviation, damaging to the faith and to Christian living, that are brought about by certain forms of liberation theology which use, in an insufficiently critical manner, concepts borrowed from various currents of Marxist thought.”

The Church’s “preferential option for the poor” is incompatible with the creation of misery and the lost of liberty that is intrinsically an inseparable part of Marxist regimes.

9."Let us recall the fact that atheism and the denial of the human person, his liberty and rights, are at the core of the Marxist theory. This theory, then, contains errors which directly threaten the truths of the faith regarding the eternal destiny of individual persons. Moreover, to attempt to integrate into theology an analysis whose criterion of interpretation depends on this atheistic conception is to involve oneself in terrible contradictions. What is more, this misunderstanding of the spiritual nature of the person leads to a total subordination of the person to the collectivity, and thus to the denial of the principles of a social and political life which is in keeping with human dignity."

7. ” The warning of Paul VI remains fully valid today: Marxism as it is actually lived out poses many distinct aspects and questions for Christians to reflect upon and act on. However, it would be "illusory and dangerous to ignore the intimate bond which radically unites them, and to accept elements of the Marxist analysis without recognizing its connections with the ideology, or to enter into the practice of class-struggle and of its Marxist interpretation while failing to see the kind of totalitarian society to which this process slowly leads." [22]

When H.H. Pope Paul VI saw how Vatican II was separated from its original intend, with heartbroken words said: “It seems like smoke from Hell penetrated through the windows of the Vatican.” It seems that now the smoke from Hell entered the Church embraced to the “liberation theology.”

In the 2005 Conclave Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger was elected as Benedict XVI. During the Conclave the powerful Cardinal Martini –the “Pope of the Liberal Catholics” -tried his outmost to get elected the Argentinian Jesuit, Cardinal Bergoglio.

Cardinal Martini was for Pope Francis, what Saul Alinsky was for Obama.

http://on-this-rock.blogspot.com/2012/09/cardinal-martini-pope-of-liberal.html

Cardinal Martini of Milan was for abortion, same sex marriage, condoms in Africa, etc. In his last interview before his passing, the Cardinal famously noted that the Church is 200 years behind the times.

William Doino on First Things blog has a lovely response:

Father John Holloway said: “Cardinal Martini was vastly underestimating the situation. The Church is not 200 years out of date—it is 2,000 years out of date, and will remain so, for the eternal truths of Jesus Christ are timeless and not subject to the trends of any particular age, however “forward” it thinks it is.”

46 posted on 10/25/2014 7:54:31 PM PDT by Dqban22
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Jesuits make their own law...Georgetown univ proves the homoperversions of the Jesuits...how many homo clubs do they allow


47 posted on 11/02/2014 8:17:31 PM PST by Understand the stimulus
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