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Rush Limbaugh Doesn't Get Pope Francis
Catholic Answers ^ | December 4, 2013 | Trent Horn

Posted on 12/05/2013 6:26:41 AM PST by NYer

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1 posted on 12/05/2013 6:26:41 AM PST by NYer
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To: NYer

Neither do I.


2 posted on 12/05/2013 6:27:15 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: Tax-chick; GregB; Berlin_Freeper; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; Ronaldus Magnus; tiki; ...

As with so many other American pundits, Limbaugh thinks nationally whereas the pope speaks universally. Not holding my breath but Limbaugh owes an apology to his audience. Ping!


3 posted on 12/05/2013 6:28:17 AM PST by NYer ("The wise man is the one who can save his soul. - St. Nimatullah Al-Hardini)
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To: NYer

Sure he does.


4 posted on 12/05/2013 6:31:58 AM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: NYer
On the other hand, while the Pope might agree with Limbaugh that Adam Smith’s “invisible hand” can lift some people out of poverty, it can also strangle the life out of the poor, and so the Pope says in that same paragraph that we can no longer trust the market alone to ensure that all people are treated with dignity.

Is the writer so clueless as to ignore the past 200+ years of human history? All the evidence is there to see that using the adjective "some" is ignorance.

5 posted on 12/05/2013 6:32:31 AM PST by C19fan
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To: NYer

I don’t get him either.

He strikes me as a communist. I’m not interested in what he has to say anymore either.


6 posted on 12/05/2013 6:33:16 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: miss marmelstein

The guy is marxist. True believers will see it. Cultists won’t.


7 posted on 12/05/2013 6:34:26 AM PST by ohiobuckeye1997
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To: miss marmelstein
Neither do I.

? Neither do you get Pope Francis? What is it you don't get?

8 posted on 12/05/2013 6:34:32 AM PST by NYer ("The wise man is the one who can save his soul. - St. Nimatullah Al-Hardini)
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"but Limbaugh owes an apology to his audience"

NO ....... he .......... doesn't!

9 posted on 12/05/2013 6:35:18 AM PST by Old Badger (Don't bother me! I still like Palin because she will tell like it is!)
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To: C19fan
On the other hand, while the Pope might agree with Limbaugh that Adam Smith’s “invisible hand” can lift some people out of poverty, it can also strangle the life out of the poor, and so the Pope says in that same paragraph that we can no longer trust the market alone to ensure that all people are treated with dignity.
"Since the origins of modern capitalism around 1780, more than two-thirds of the world’s population has moved out of poverty. In China and India alone, more than 500 million have been raised out of poverty just in the last forty years. In almost every nation the average age of mortality has risen dramatically, causing populations to expand accordingly. Health in almost every dimension has been improved, and literacy has been carried to remote places it never reached before.

Whatever the motives of individuals, the system has improved the plight of the poor as none ever has before. The contemporary left systematically refuses to face these undeniable facts."
-- Robert Novak, from the thread Economic Heresies of the Left (Novak on Caritas in Veritate)


10 posted on 12/05/2013 6:36:17 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: NYer; Cincinatus' Wife

There are too many words, going in circles, in what Pope Francis wrote. Anyone, not only Rush, could focus on a particular section but later, a different one, and wind up concluding that Pope Francis was almost conducting a debate with himself.

Why should the reader have to dissect and dissect down to the syllable and even then, wonder if he truly “GOT” the overall essence, or the bottom line?

I’m not insulting anyone of the Catholic faith - not my intention - I’m just calling this controversy as I see it.

The main point appears to be that he is deeply concerned about the poor, and any system which leaves them poor is in line for critique.

Uh, didn’t Jesus say, “the poor you always have with you”?

He showed no lack of concern for the poor by saying a truism.

What he wanted his followers to do is to show kindness and compassion as individuals, as his followers. Doing good to others as unto God. It is a spiritual issue that Jesus addressed, and in the process, the poor get helped. But also they are to have the Gospel of Christ preached to them.

Whether certain economic systems were or were not helpful or harmful to poor people was not Christ’s issue.

Rush is right, though, that Capitalism has done the only decent job of lifting people up to a higher economic plane.

The rest of the “isms” are crashing failures.


11 posted on 12/05/2013 6:39:10 AM PST by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear." (Glenn Beck))
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“The reality is that the Catholic Church, and Pope Francis included, cannot simply say it is for or against capitalism. It’s a complex question. “

It is not a copmplex question. It is quite simple. If churches don’t want to weigh in because it is too complex then stay out of it. The church has enough to do without getting into poitics anyway.


13 posted on 12/05/2013 6:42:15 AM PST by plain talk
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The Catholic Church also seems to be one of the biggest supporters of Amnesty for illegal immigrants.


14 posted on 12/05/2013 6:45:12 AM PST by TexasCajun
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Me wonders if Mr. Horn listened to Rush himself or is responding to something he read about what Rush said.

Shortly after making the aforementioned comments, Rush said that he was being inundated with e-mails from Catholics who said that the WaPo took Pope Francis's words out of context and Rush ended the segment by saying something along the lines of, "I don't know what to believe" or something along those lines.

As a lifelong Dittohead, the only part of Rush's show that rankles me is when he quotes from The Washington Post, The New York Slimes, The LA Slimes, CNN, etc.

I don't give a flying fig what any of those outlets say about anything.

Rush should know by now to preface anything he is about to say that is in response to those sources is to say that the information he is about to comment on may be inaccurate.

15 posted on 12/05/2013 6:46:28 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Te?xas Eagle)
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To: Old Badger

I gotta get me one of those Kirk-speak keyboards.


16 posted on 12/05/2013 6:48:06 AM PST by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: txrangerette
Why should the reader have to dissect and dissect down to the syllable and even then, wonder if he truly “GOT” the overall essence, or the bottom line?

I agree. Why can't he just come out in favor of free enterprise just as he does for the sanctity of life? We don't have to parse his words when he wants to be clear.

17 posted on 12/05/2013 6:48:46 AM PST by BfloGuy ( Even the opponents of Socialism are dominated by socialist ideas.)
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To: miss marmelstein
I'm not sure I get the new Pope either.....his words, however crafted by the Jesuits, are being thrown about by liberals and leftists alike....

have we reached a time now that the media can pick and choose whatever words they want to hear from figures such as the Pope?....

because frankly, I don't know what to believe...

yes...there are winners in capitalism....winners based on effort, skill, work ethic, or talent, or intelligence, or athletic ability, or beauty.....

as opposed to communism which awards winners simply on their party affiliation....not on merit at all...

no system is perfect, but at least capitalism inspires people to better themselves and their families thru hard work....

18 posted on 12/05/2013 6:49:12 AM PST by cherry (.in the time of universal deceit, telling the truth is revolutionary.....)
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To: NYer

Nowhere did Limbaugh CALL this pope a Marxist. There is a difference between calling someone a Marxist and stating that what they were hearing was classic Marxism. Maybe a thin difference but one just the same.

If the writer of this article had more journalist integrity he would also have made mention that Limbaugh has been to the Vatican several times, has considered the Catholic Church and that he had already SEVERAL emails and communications stating that he had not understood what the pope originally meant. In addition, Limbaugh, unlike some others, trusts his audience to think for themselves—in other words they don’t have to take what he says as Gospel.


19 posted on 12/05/2013 6:50:02 AM PST by navymom1
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As you well know, Catholics do not have to listen to the Pope when he blathers on about political or social issues. I hope non-Catholics understand that. I choose - generally - not to listen to Popes (or that oily Cardinal Dolan).


20 posted on 12/05/2013 6:50:08 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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