Fox News opinion piece BLASTS Pope Francis as “the Catholic Church’s Obama”

WDTPRS ^ | December 4, 2013 | Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

[NYer]

Ping!

[Dr. Ursus]

The last two Popes knew fascism close-up. Now we have this guy!

[Excellence]

Either Francis fails
or the Church fails.
Between Francis’ love of communism and Islam. I don’t hold out much hope for the Church.

[ZX12R]

I don't like what the pope said, but it doesn't bother me. It's just a man's opinion that he can't impose on anyone.

People have different levels of intelligence.
People have different levels of ambition and drive to be successful.

People can be lazy, especially when a check/sustenance can be had for doing nothing.

There's SUPPOSE to be inequality in a free society. Equality in opportunity should always be attempted. But equality across the board should be seen as total nonsense by any normal thinking human being.

It's a fools errand, so it's understandable why Obama thinks income equality is something to be attempted.

[Guenevere]

He’s a Jesuit.....enough said.

[realcleanguy]

When I recall the 7 churches in Revelation, I am reminded of the luke warm church, the one God spews out of His mouth. There is also the compromising church, they didn’t do well also. The early Church met in Synagogues and homes, read the Old Testament, studied the words of Jesus, and communed together. The Church today does very little of these things and isn’t recognizable to the early church. Maybe the Final Days are upon us, with false prophets, false teachers, haters of God and His Word abounding in all levels of the Church and Government. Today, right is wrong and wrong is right. Sin is rewarded and encouraged, God is pushed to the back of the bus, and all the children have been led astray. This shouldn’t be depressing, because Jesus said this would happen, before His 2nd return, which is now very close at hand. As in the days of Job, we should be clothed in sackcloth, with ashes on our heads repenting of our and other sins. Judgment is coming, which side of the fence do we want to be found?

[NYer]

don't like what the pope said, but it doesn't bother me.

Can you be more specific? Precisely what did he say with which you disagree .. and show us where he said that in the actual document.

[PoloSec]

Just like obama the pope has many die hard defenders, no matter what he says, he has been misinterpreted, taken out of context and so on.

Bottom line just like obama, there is not a darn thing anybody can do about it.

[Berlin_Freeper]

When the Pope speaks, I take what he says as a personal message that applies to me alone and not a world message as how governments should be run. I care nothing about what the pro-homosexuals on FOX, or any other mentally disheveled person has to say about it.

[NKP_Vet]

This writer is a moron. The Pope is neither conservative or liberal. He is a pastor. And as long as there is a Catholic Church women will not be ordained, there will be no homosexual “marriage”, and there will be no abortion for any reason. What I would do if I were him is not say a word, just go about the business of tending to the flock. No matter what he says those that despise that the Catholic Church will find fault with him, where they be liberal or conservative. On the social issues he is no different than any other pope and the liberals (who claim they like him) will certainly find that out, and the criticism will start and never let up.

Pay no attention to those whose politics informs their religion rather than the other way around. The weed of heresy ALWAYS bears bitter fruit and you will note that virtually all of the anti-Francis crowd are heretics of one stripe or another.

[ZX12R]

Can you be more specific? Precisely what did he say with which you disagree .. and show us where he said that in the actual document.

"This is a case of inequality. Today everything comes under the laws of competition and the survival of the fittest, where the powerful feed upon the powerless. As a consequence, masses of people find themselves excluded and marginalized: without work, without possibilities, without any means of escape."

"In this context, some people continue to defend trickle-down theories which assume that economic growth, encouraged by a free market, will inevitably succeed in bringing about greater justice and inclusiveness in the world. This opinion, which has never been confirmed by the facts, expresses a crude and naïve trust in the goodness of those wielding economic power and in the sacralized workings of the prevailing economic system."

"The worship of the ancient golden calf (cf. Ex 32:1-35) has returned in a new and ruthless guise in the idolatry of money and the dictatorship of an impersonal economy lacking a truly human purpose. The worldwide crisis affecting finance and the economy lays bare their imbalances and, above all, their lack of real concern for human beings; man is reduced to one of his needs alone: consumption."

"While the earnings of a minority are growing exponentially, so too is the gap separating the majority from the prosperity enjoyed by those happy few. This imbalance is the result of ideologies which defend the absolute autonomy of the marketplace and financial speculation. Consequently, they reject the right of states, charged with vigilance for the common good, to exercise any form of control. A new tyranny is thus born, invisible and often virtual, which unilaterally and relentlessly imposes its own laws and rules."

APOSTOLIC EXHORTATION EVANGELII GAUDIUM OF THE HOLY FATHER FRANCIS

Published in the Vatican Press

[stanne]

“Did Rush’s criticism of Evangelii gaudium the other day give “permission”, as it were, to conservative newsies, etc., to start blasting away?”

Did you read the document?

The Pope uses the term, “trickle down economics”, calling it, and effectively, Reagan’s economics, a terrible notion.

Did the Pope have to use that term?

Obama quoted the Pope yesterday in his lecture to us, telling us that we need to reject notions of capitalism and embrace what the Pope himself endorses, shared wealth.

The MSM doesn’t even need to get in on this.

I would be so happy to see anyone explain how, specifically, Rush and/or the President are misinterpreting this document, its tone and its goal.

I’ve really searched, but I can’t see it.

[al_c]

Fox News (and other outlets) thinks on an American level while the pope is speaking on a universal level. He’s not addressing only the U.S. ... something the media just can’t seem to grasp.

[Salvation]

Someone at Fox News needs to read this exhortation. And the report it fair and balanced.

[Salvation]

I think you are making a mistake in judgment here.

[Salvation]

The Jesuits are on their way back up — why to you slander them?

[RichInOC]

That’s an absurd comparison. Not to mention libelous to Pope Francis, if you think about it. I don’t think he’s a liar. Obama, on the other hand…

[Guenevere]

You read a lot more in my little post than I posted.

[steelhead_trout]

Maybe His Holiness shouldn’t have used the term “trickle-down”, though accurate grates on the nerves of some Americans for reasons unknown, but all of what you’ve quoted from his exhortation is essentially accurate. Sadly, some people will never accept this.