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'Crucifix is now just a fashion statement and has lost religious meaning': Archbishop Of Canterbury
Daily Mail ^ | 11/29/2013 | Emily Davis

Posted on 11/29/2013 4:24:57 PM PST by SeekAndFind

The Most Rev Justin Welby said the Cross has been trivialised and ceases to shock or challenge people. Archbishop Welby wrote that the symbol should represent the ‘deepest encounter and radical change’ for Christians.

He added: ‘For those early Christians it was a badge of shame.

‘Today it is more commonly seen as a symbol of beauty to hang around your neck.

‘As a friend of mine used to say, you might as well hang a tiny golden gallows or an electric chair around your neck.’

In a foreword to a book which will be published in the run-up to Lent next year, Archbishop Welby continued:

‘Are we now living with a symbol emptied of power by time and fashion?

‘Christianity with a powerless cross is Christianity without a throne for Christ or an aspiration for Christians.

‘A cross that has no weight is not worth carrying. To look through the cross is to seek its weight.’

Archbishop Welby wrote in his foreword that the fact that the early church stuck to the story of the crucifixion – despite attacks on it – proves that it is true.

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TOPICS: Mainline Protestant; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: crucifix; fashion; lds; mormon; protestantcross
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1 posted on 11/29/2013 4:24:57 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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2 posted on 11/29/2013 4:26:19 PM PST by narses (... unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.)
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To: SeekAndFind
a cross and a Crucifix are NOT the same thing...
3 posted on 11/29/2013 4:27:31 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: SeekAndFind

it’s unfortunate that many have been removed from churches. put them back please...


4 posted on 11/29/2013 4:27:54 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: SeekAndFind

Whoever wrote this is full of ——well you know.


5 posted on 11/29/2013 4:43:48 PM PST by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Church of England has entered a post Christian, post Biblical phase. More than half its clergy are agnostic or outright atheist.


6 posted on 11/29/2013 4:44:11 PM PST by allendale
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To: SeekAndFind

‘As a friend of mine used to say, you might as well hang a tiny golden gallows or an electric chair around your neck.’

Your friend is an idiot.


7 posted on 11/29/2013 5:04:00 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: SeekAndFind

Seems to me that the meaning depends on the faith of the wearer. Sweeping dictates and critics are usually part correct but mostly wrong.


8 posted on 11/29/2013 5:07:14 PM PST by JimSEA
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To: SeekAndFind; All

I agree with Most Rev Justin Welby to an extent. After all, we see crucifix so often that we become desensitized to it like we have become desensitized to “In God we trust” on money.


9 posted on 11/29/2013 5:24:14 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: SeekAndFind

Hardly a statement to get upset about. It’s not like the CofE is a Christian church. Even the Anglicans dismiss them as heterodoxical at best and heretical at worst.


10 posted on 11/29/2013 5:24:27 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Last Obamacare Promise: "If You Like Your Eternal Soul, You Can Keep It.")
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To: SeekAndFind

Catholics wear crosses with Jesus on it. Means more that way.


11 posted on 11/29/2013 5:27:45 PM PST by tioga (Wise men still seek Him.)
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But after crucifixion, Christ was buried, rose from the dead and is alive forever. The cross with Christ on it leaves out this most important part.


12 posted on 11/29/2013 5:31:47 PM PST by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Agreed. This is meaningless at best.


13 posted on 11/29/2013 5:33:17 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: tioga

It means more to us, but clearly not to Protestants.


14 posted on 11/29/2013 5:34:04 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

symbols don’t mean squat

symbols have no religious significance

Nowhere does Jesus tell us to pray to a cross or the nails for that matter.


15 posted on 11/29/2013 5:35:50 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: reasonisfaith

The center of our faith is that Jesus became man, died on the cross and rose again. The cross was not a pretty symbol, it was a death instrument. Taking the corpus off the cross trivializes His sacrifice. Too many forget that act of love.


16 posted on 11/29/2013 5:43:46 PM PST by tioga (Wise men still seek Him.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Actually Rev. Welby, the cross lost it’s meaning when you decided to remove the Corpus from it, which makes it a Crucifix.

The Corpus is there to remind us that our sins put him there.

The notion that you removed it because it better represents the Risen Christ, is watered down nonsense.


17 posted on 11/29/2013 6:00:14 PM PST by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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To: tioga

Amen.


18 posted on 11/29/2013 6:24:30 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: lightman

Ping.


19 posted on 11/29/2013 6:33:48 PM PST by Carriage Hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: SeekAndFind

My understanding (and appreciation) of The Cross is now 180 degrees from where it was, and this has happened in a few months.

I thought it to be no more than an instrument of torture and death. I thought it was obscene to use it as a symbol of Christianity. I thought Jesus to be just a victim of evil envious men. I thought The Cross was the worst possible symbol of what Jesus offered us.

He was a volunteer, not a victim. He volunteered to be tortured, taunted, slapped, ridiculed and mocked, and then made to die in the most painful and humiliating way known at the time. He did this to atone for our ancient ancestors’ rebellion and the subsequent loss of connection to God. He offered Himself as a substitute for you and I, as The Template of our psyche and soul, and the debt was paid. This closed the loop, paid the debt, and restored the connection.

He restored the connection for those who are willing to accept the vicarious atonement by faith. Justice and mercy are reconciled by what He did. I have chosen to believe and accept the gift He gave me on The Cross.

Now I see The Cross very differently.


20 posted on 11/29/2013 6:55:02 PM PST by CPO retired
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