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At the LCWR Woodstock in Orlando the sisters learn that “we are stardust”
WDTPRS ^ | August 15, 2013 | Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

Posted on 08/16/2013 3:10:04 PM PDT by NYer

The LCWR Woodstock 2013 has begun at Yasgur’s Farm … er… the Caribe Royale Resort near Disney World in Orlando.

Today they had a talk from their featured speaker, Sr. Ilia Delio, OSF.

Excerpts from the National Catholic Register coverage:

LCWR Keynote Speaker Advocates ‘Cosmological Rethink’ of Religion

Sister Ilia Delio discusses an ‘evolutionary’ approach with the women religious gathered in Orlando for the group’s 2013 annual assembly.

ORLANDO — Sister of St. Francis Ilia Delio, melding science and theology, took her fellow women religious on a journey through the cosmos yesterday in her two-part keynote speech, “Religious Life on the Edge of the Universe,” [I guess being on the edge of the bus seat isn't enough.] at the Leadership Conference of Women Religious (LCWR) here. In the second part, following lunch, Sister Ilia emphasized love and authenticity.
“If we are to rethink in terms of religion, we have to think in terms of cosmology,” Sister Ilia said. [and... obedience?]
“We have to understand the order of the whole,” adding, “There is no cosmos without God, and no God without cosmos.” [Ummm... hey... Sister? I hate to break this to you, but... not really.]
Sister Ilia, director of Catholic studies and visiting professor at Georgetown University in Washington, has a doctorate in pharmacology [!] as well as historical theology. [How about pharmacological theology?]
The 825 attendees of the LCWR 2013 assembly — titled “Leadership Evolving: Graced, Grounded & Free” — listened as Sister Ilia discussed the evolving philosophical, theological and scientific theories that she said are shaping man’s [ooops] outlook of God and nature.
Dionysius [I'll give her the benefit of the doubt and guess that she doesn't mean the god of wine.] proposed everything has its place in the spiritual order, Sister Ilia said. What brought about disorder? Laughter ensued when Sister Ilia stated, “It was sin that led to disorder, and it was attributed to a woman who shows up in Genesis and was never heard from again.” [Why not pick on Adam?]
A mixture of Scripture, philosophy from Plato and other Greek thinkers helped develop our theory of Jesus Christ — unchanging, static — a mechanical God.
Sir Isaac Newton contributed a world of law and order where everything is autonomous and related. Sister Ilia remarked that Newton’s God is the “Florida God. He charges it up, sets it in motion and then retires — probably to Orlando.”
The audience again laughed. [Meanwhile, on this blog...]
Sister Ilia’s description of her belief as a young postulant about keeping order brought nods of affirmation. “As a postulant I thought — ‘If I pray and obey, I can keep my part.’” [But that's so... non-cosmic.]
God is more than mechanical, and the universe is far from static. “We have an incredible, dynamic, expanding universe. Simply from the point of science, this is awesome,” Sister Ilia said, adding, “Literally, we are stardust.” [Groovy.]

[CUE MUSIC!

I came upon a child of God
He was walking along the road
And I asked him, "Where are you going?"
And this he told me...
.
I'm going on down to Yasgur's Farm,
I'm gonna join in a rock and roll band.
I'm gonna camp out on the land.
I'm gonna get my soul free.
.
We are stardust.
We are golden.
And we've got to get ourselves back to the garden.
.
Then can I walk beside you?
I have come here to lose the smog,
And I feel to be a cog in something turning.
.
Well maybe it is just the time of year,
Or maybe it's the time of man.
I don't know who I am,
But you know life is for learning.
.
We are stardust.
We are golden.
And we've got to get ourselves back to the garden.
.
By the time we got to Woodstock,
We were half a million strong
And Everywhere there was song and celebration.
.
And I dreamed I saw the bombers
Riding shotgun in the sky,
And they were turning into butterflies
Above our nation.
.
We are stardust.
Billion year old carbon.
We are golden..
Caught in the devil's bargain
And we've got to get ourselves back to the garden.]

Teilhardian Ideas

Sister Ilia is a devotee of Jesuit scholar Pierre Teilhard de Chardin and his theories on evolution and love, reminding the audience the Church is not opposed to evolution.

[...]

‘Giving Birth to God’

Ending her presentation, Sister Ilia reminded the attendees, “God is within and up ahead — not above. God is the power of the future. To rest on God is to rest on the future.”
Nothing is more awesome than to give birth to God,” she said. [Ehem... I think only one person knows about that.]

[...]

Groovy.

I look forward to the complete transcript of her 2.5 hour presentation.

Oddly, the Fishwrap’s coverage didn’t mention the connection with Teilhard.

I’m still hurt that the nuns rejected me.



TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: lcwr

1 posted on 08/16/2013 3:10:04 PM PDT by NYer
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...

I happened to stop by BJs earlier today to pick up a few items. While navigating the aisles, I caught the fleeting image of a young nun in full habit wearing a white veil. What a beautiful sight!! A few minutes later, I caught up with the trio of sisters and enjoined them in some conversation. They said they were a traditional community, not contemplative but a teaching order. Their youthful faces gleamed with joy and the love of Christ. One of the sisters offered me a holy card which I gratefully accepted. It featured a beautiful image of the Blessed Mother with The Hail Mary on the reverse, along with the name of their community - Daughters of Mary, Mother of our Savior - and website link. In thanking the sisters, I offered them a holy card of a favorite saint, Josephine Bakhita. Their smiles were now strained which struck me strange. Perhaps they had never heard of St. Bakhita. I offered a short biography of the saint's life and, to ensure any possible concerns might be addressed, I added that Pope Benedict began his encyclical "Spe Salvi" by citing the life of St. Bakhita. The sisters maintained their frozen smiles. Once home, I checked their web site only to discover that their community was formed in 1984 by a Bishop Kelly. In checking further, I discovered that the community is a member of the Society of St. Pius V, which is not recognized by the Vatican. Apparently, both groups find themselves on opposite ends of the Catholic spectrum. How truly sad.

2 posted on 08/16/2013 3:11:02 PM PDT by NYer ( "Run from places of sin as from the plague."--St John Climacus)
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To: NYer

Hoagy Carmichael will be pleased.


3 posted on 08/16/2013 3:21:59 PM PDT by YHAOS
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To: NYer

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephine_Bakhita


4 posted on 08/16/2013 3:26:46 PM PDT by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: NYer
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5 posted on 08/16/2013 3:27:58 PM PDT by ClaytonP
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To: NYer
some_text

Pulpit rock

So thats what Jim McGreevey is up to these days!

6 posted on 08/16/2013 3:31:24 PM PDT by ClaytonP
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To: NYer

Oy vey.


7 posted on 08/16/2013 3:31:38 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (You hear it here first.)
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To: NYer

Hey, ‘Woodstock’ was actually a good song. Crosby, Stills and Nash had the best known version, and they still do a great full blast/high decibel version in concert, but Joni Mitchell wrote it of course.


8 posted on 08/16/2013 3:33:36 PM PDT by Stevenc131
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To: NYer

“Ilia” as in the plural of “Illium”, i.e. the bone you feel on the side of your butt?


9 posted on 08/16/2013 3:39:52 PM PDT by bigbob (W)
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To: NYer

Everything we are was forged in the hearts of stars. Mind boggling concept. Now pass me a cigar and some more ammo.


10 posted on 08/16/2013 3:54:08 PM PDT by Noumenon (What would Michael Collins do?)
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To: ClaytonP

Bill Nye has a twin sister!!!

.............

No its Matt Frewer practicing for a new role!


11 posted on 08/16/2013 3:56:31 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL
At the LCWR Woodstock in Orlando the sisters learn that “we are stardust”
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12 posted on 08/16/2013 5:11:39 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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One suggestion Sartain made to LCWR in his remarks, one sister said, was to alter the way the group selects speakers for its annual assemblies. Instead of choosing only one speaker to address its members, Sartain suggested they select respondents as well, including at least one who would put in a positive light the official teachings of the church.

Sartain offers LCWR few details, some sisters say

Sartain is such a wimp. He should become a nun.

13 posted on 08/16/2013 8:09:06 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: NYer

Guess she hasn’t heard that the latest theories are that we live in a multiverse, which means the deity is probably outside not just the “cosmos” (a non scientific term for the sky) but probably outside the space time continuum...

As for being made of stardust: Yup. All our atoms come from stars that turned supernova and then went from fusing hydrogen to fusing larger atoms. However, by definition, that is not “stardust” since atoms a lot smaller than dust particles.

She is a new age bimbo, and like a lot of new agers mixes a smidgeon of science with a smidgeon of theology, and gets neither one right.


14 posted on 08/17/2013 4:39:39 AM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: NYer

Of they are not recognized by the Vatican, it is because they are not in keeping with the Vatican .

They are not at an opposite end of the Church, they are outside of the Church, in that case .

All of the trappings that go along with that situation are found in this.

In this case doubt of everything the Church teaches is allowed

Spiritually, one is in a vey dangerous place, when giving any legitimacy to these women who proclaim the greatness of the Blessed Mother but who cast doubt on the teachings of the Church her son founded


15 posted on 08/17/2013 8:09:42 AM PDT by stanne
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To: NYer

SSPV broke away from SSPX. (Greene County Trads)


16 posted on 08/17/2013 3:37:43 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (we're the Beatniks now)
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If the wacko nun thinks she's giving birth to God; I doubt she has any devotion to the Blessed Mother nor the graces She dispenses.

As far as "stardust", she must believe more in the graces of Tinkerbell than those of the Blessed Virgin.


17 posted on 08/17/2013 8:46:29 PM PDT by ebb tide
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