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Why Some Scientists Embrace the ‘Multiverse’
National Review ^ | 06/18/2013 | Dennis Prager

Posted on 06/18/2013 5:22:54 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 06/18/2013 5:22:54 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

have they pronounced the universe gay, yet?


2 posted on 06/18/2013 5:35:38 AM PDT by schm0e ("we are in the midst of a coup.")
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To: SeekAndFind

An empty universe is terrifying, so they invent infinite ones to make each action they make and the thousands of “mirrors” to magnify their existence.


3 posted on 06/18/2013 5:41:38 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: SeekAndFind

they can figure down to the last atom, how the universe was formed and what happened before, during and after the big bang, including any other membranes, strings and other universes....

but there is know way of making a cogent argument against the existence of a creator....or proof that there is for that matter. it is faith and there is no way to measure it.

why cant they just keep their (lack of)believe system to themselves unless they have solid proof...which they can’t.


4 posted on 06/18/2013 5:45:31 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: SeekAndFind
"The fact that atheists have resorted to the multiverse argument constitutes a tacit admission that they have lost the argument about design in this universe"

Um... no it doesn't. I disagree with the atheists 100% but this statement is logical fallacy, X does not mean therefore Y.

We cant be intellectually honest and let our side get away with statements like that. Just because the other side screams "yer mother wears army boots" does not mean our argument is correct, is just means THEY have no argument.

5 posted on 06/18/2013 5:46:09 AM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Prager's argument is an epic fail as it transposes cause and effect. We are not here because the Universe is perfectly tuned for life...the Universe is perfectly tuned for life BECAUSE WE ARE HERE.

If the Universe were arranged any other way, nobody would exist to discuss it. Look up "The Anthropic Cosmological Principle".

6 posted on 06/18/2013 5:53:30 AM PDT by 10mm
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To: SeekAndFind

The “Multiverse” theory is just a newer variant of the old “a million monkeys typing for a million years could produce the works of Shakespeare” argument.

“Hope & Change”

Anything to keep from having to acknowledge God.


7 posted on 06/18/2013 5:55:41 AM PDT by BwanaNdege ("To learn who rules over you simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"- Voltaire)
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To: windcliff; stylecouncilor

Faith & science bump....


8 posted on 06/18/2013 5:57:56 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: SeekAndFind

The more they deny the existence of GOD, the more mystical they get. Doesn’t make sense.


9 posted on 06/18/2013 5:58:59 AM PDT by Dallas59 (Q: The worst president in US history?)
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To: BwanaNdege

I think the multiverse is in a closet somewhere sitting next to “dark matter”.


10 posted on 06/18/2013 6:00:58 AM PDT by Bratch
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To: Bratch

searching for “evidence of multiverse” generates 382,000 hits


11 posted on 06/18/2013 6:03:57 AM PDT by tanstaafl44 (ghod does not take attendance)
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To: tbw2

-—An empty universe is terrifying

You might do well to read about the
“House of Mirrors” concept in Psychology.

http://www.theemotionmachine.com/consciousness-is-a-house-of-mirrors


12 posted on 06/18/2013 6:16:13 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: 10mm

For me personally, Anthropic principles fail to explain why our universe is in one such fine-tuned state, when “all things being equal”, it was much more likely to develop into chaos.

The multiverse hypothesis is a contrived attempt to reconcile our elegant reality with blind chance, at odds with our universal observation that reality follows one path or another, but not all paths.

I think a more obvious solution to the enigma is that all things are NOT EQUAL, and that the path that results in life was preferred from the beginning.

Anthropic principles attempt to mask this blatantly teleological principle with the language of probability, illogically “proving” the a priori necessity of the cause from the a posteriori necessity of the effect.

When this faulty logic is removed, we are once again left with pure teleology: the universe was made for man.


13 posted on 06/18/2013 6:18:10 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Thank you for this.


14 posted on 06/18/2013 6:31:35 AM PDT by frog in a pot ("To each according to his need..." This from a guy who never had a real job and his family starved.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Belief in multiverse requires faith, as there is no proof of multiple universes. What a tangled web they are weaving all in the name of dispelling faith.


15 posted on 06/18/2013 6:46:47 AM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: SeekAndFind

If there are enough universes in the “multiverse”, at least one might be the Secular Utopia they all dream about.


16 posted on 06/18/2013 6:48:13 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: SeekAndFind

bookmark


17 posted on 06/18/2013 7:02:55 AM PDT by Albertafriend
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To: 10mm

No, you miss the point. First and foremost, we are here, I had to be at work by 8:30, so, we do exist. Acknowledging that we exist, you start to focus in on the window of parameters that must exist for us to be. As the article says, for that to happen by chance, would be like to hit a 1mm bullseye from across the universe (it does not say whether the thrower was actually targeting the bullseye or not). So, because we are here, and because all of the parameters have to be so finely tuned that it eliminates “tuning by chance”, the only alternative is that the “fine tuning” was designed.


18 posted on 06/18/2013 7:21:11 AM PDT by job
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To: SeekAndFind

There is only one universe. When a scientists talks about a ‘universe’ that is impossible to verify through experience, the scientist is no longer acting as a scientist, but as someone with a mission - destroy the possibility of creation.

They decry faith, but this is faith - “there’s another universe out there, but there is absolutely no way to communicate with it, to see it, or to have any proof at all of its existence. You’ll have to take my word for it”

Get over it. The universe is as it is, perfect, and no man on earth can explain it.


19 posted on 06/18/2013 7:23:22 AM PDT by I want the USA back (If I Pi$$ed off just one liberal today my mission has been accomplished.)
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To: theBuckwheat

I love this stuff. It equates to thinking about thinking, The unverse is jello. It is not many things. It is one thing. Touch it at any point and it quivers throughout, albeit infinetesimally.
We are part of the whole which blinked into existence at the whim of its creator and will, assuredly, blink out either at his will or when he is otherwise distracted.


20 posted on 06/18/2013 7:26:05 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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