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Under the Roman Sky (film details heroic efforts of Pius XII to save Jews of Rome from the Nazis)
The American Catholic ^ | Donald R. McClarey

Posted on 06/15/2013 4:03:11 PM PDT by NYer

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To: detective

We fought in Russia, we fought in China, and we fought in Vietnam, we fought in Korea, and all over the world.

We did defeat the Soviet Union over a 75 year period regardless of what you think, and it cost us dearly.


21 posted on 06/15/2013 7:16:58 PM PDT by ansel12 (Social liberalism/libertarianism, empowers, creates and imports, and breeds, economic liberals.)
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To: GreyFriar

Thanks for the ping!


22 posted on 06/15/2013 7:50:00 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: ansel12

“Mexico was almost 100% baptized members of the catholic denomination, so all the struggle was among Mexicans themselves.”

1) There is no such thing as “the catholic denomination”. Perhaps you mean the Catholic Church, which is not a denomination.

2) Also, no one doubts everyone involved was Mexican. The issue was that the Catholics were persecuted by non-Catholics.


23 posted on 06/15/2013 7:57:41 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: ansel12; HoosierDammit; TYVets; red irish; fastrock; NorthernCrunchyCon; UMCRevMom@aol.com; ...
ansel12 wrote:
Mexico was almost 100% Catholic, that was just Mexicans fighting for power among themselves.
Ignorance of history is dangerous. And apologists for marxism and freemasonry are idiots, willing fools who help the Anti-Christ in his evil pursuits.
24 posted on 06/15/2013 8:00:35 PM PDT by narses
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To: narses

There is no ignorance of history or any of the other nonsense that you mentioned, in knowing that almost the entire Mexican population about 98% were fully baptized, members of the Catholic denomination.

Regardless of what they were fighting for, it was Catholics fighting, if intervention was called for, there were many almost purely Catholic nations south of Mexico to intervene.


25 posted on 06/15/2013 8:15:07 PM PDT by ansel12 (Social liberalism/libertarianism, empowers, creates and imports, and breeds, economic liberals.)
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To: ansel12

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3031846/posts


26 posted on 06/15/2013 8:16:16 PM PDT by narses
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If you want to explain which countries were supposed to send their Army’s to Mexico, and why, then do so, but don’t just post links.

If Mexico needed to be invaded, then perhaps the many Catholic nations south of it could have invaded, or perhaps the Catholic nations of Spain, or France could have gone to help.


27 posted on 06/15/2013 8:24:19 PM PDT by ansel12 (Social liberalism/libertarianism, empowers, creates and imports, and breeds, economic liberals.)
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To: ansel12

28 posted on 06/15/2013 8:27:46 PM PDT by narses
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To: ansel12

The KKK sent money - to help persecute the Church.


29 posted on 06/15/2013 8:36:35 PM PDT by narses
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To: narses

If you weren’t interested in the idea of military intervention in Mexico that came up in posts 8 and 9, then perhaps you shouldn’t be posting to me about it, but if you do, then you can respond to post 27, frankly though, the subject bores me as well, like I said in post 9, it was internal Mexican stuff, America took in many tens of thousands of Catholic refugees though.


30 posted on 06/15/2013 8:36:40 PM PDT by ansel12 (Social liberalism/libertarianism, empowers, creates and imports, and breeds, economic liberals.)
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To: ansel12

“...it was internal Mexican stuff, ...”

Ignorance of history leads to foolish comments like that.


31 posted on 06/15/2013 8:38:01 PM PDT by narses
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To: narses

If you want to explain which countries were supposed to send their Army’s to Mexico, and why, then do so.

If Mexico needed to be invaded, then perhaps the many Catholic nations south of it could have invaded, or perhaps the Catholic nations of Spain, or France could have gone to help.


32 posted on 06/15/2013 8:39:09 PM PDT by ansel12 (Social liberalism/libertarianism, empowers, creates and imports, and breeds, economic liberals.)
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To: NYer

Thanks for posting the story.


33 posted on 06/15/2013 8:41:21 PM PDT by Chesterbelloc
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To: ansel12
There is no ignorance of history

What do you call it, then? Plutarco Calles was raised by an uncle who was a fanatical atheist who hated Catholics and Catholicism. When Calles became President of Mexico, he effectively made Catholicism illegal, and received awards from Freemasons for doing so.. Priests had to go underground; some were arrested and executed. Since you didn't know about any of that, I'd say maybe you should consider the possibility that there is a little ignorance of history in play.

34 posted on 06/15/2013 8:57:10 PM PDT by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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To: GreyFriar

Thanks for the ping. I’m glad to see the record set straight,


35 posted on 06/15/2013 8:58:51 PM PDT by zot
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To: Campion
you didn't know

Reading the mind of another Freeper is a form of "making it personal."

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

36 posted on 06/15/2013 9:01:13 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Campion

Mexico was almost 100% catholic and almost everyone involved was Catholic, and as far as intervention, which was the subject. If you want to explain which countries were supposed to send their Army’s to Mexico, and why, then do so, no one is holding you back from giving your opinion on that.

If Mexico needed to be invaded, then perhaps the many Catholic nations south of it could have invaded, or perhaps the Catholic nations of Spain, or France could have gone to help.


37 posted on 06/15/2013 9:02:18 PM PDT by ansel12 (Social liberalism/libertarianism, empowers, creates and imports, and breeds, economic liberals.)
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To: Religion Moderator

Oh please


38 posted on 06/15/2013 9:21:13 PM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Why am I both pro-life & pro-gun? Because both positions defend the innocent and protect the weak.)
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To: Campion

Your post is spot-on. I wish more people knew about that period of history, how the Marxists are repeating the same thing here, and the part our very own gov (Woodrow Wilson) played in assisting the Marxist Masons in slaughtering faithful Catholics.


39 posted on 06/15/2013 9:24:23 PM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Why am I both pro-life & pro-gun? Because both positions defend the innocent and protect the weak.)
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To: Religion Moderator

“Reading the mind of another Freeper is a form of “making it personal.”

Acknowledging ignorance is simple observation of fact.


40 posted on 06/15/2013 9:44:49 PM PDT by narses
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