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Under the Roman Sky (film details heroic efforts of Pius XII to save Jews of Rome from the Nazis)
The American Catholic ^ | Donald R. McClarey

Posted on 06/15/2013 4:03:11 PM PDT by NYer

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1 posted on 06/15/2013 4:03:11 PM PDT by NYer
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2 posted on 06/15/2013 4:03:37 PM PDT by NYer ( "Run from places of sin as from the plague."--St John Climacus)
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To: NYer

Cromwell is quite a Lefty. I’m a little surprised he chose to be involved.


3 posted on 06/15/2013 4:08:36 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: NYer

The Catholic POPE did 1000 times more than AMERICAN JEWS did to help Jews during the Holocaust!! And the American JEWS VOTE FOR THE KENNEDY’s whose patriarch was a NAZI SUPPORTER!!!


4 posted on 06/15/2013 4:09:55 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: NYer

Oh yeah...and AMerican Jews ADORE FDR who sent the St. Louis ship back to Germany FULL of JEWS trying to escape Nazis....back to their DEATHS!! And the Jews LOVE FDR....my in-laws included....and they even KNOW about the St. Louis debabcle, but because FDR was a Democrat he could do no wrong.....and the Pope, well the Pope is Catholic, so he could do no RIGHT!!


5 posted on 06/15/2013 4:12:18 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy

The Catholics and Jews voted about the same for JFK, 80 and 82%.

The Catholics and Jews both always loved and voted for FDR, until he finally died as our only American ‘President for life’.

So isn’t just the Jews who loved those guys.


6 posted on 06/15/2013 4:23:52 PM PDT by ansel12 (Social liberalism/libertarianism, empowers, creates and imports, and breeds, economic liberals.)
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Worth reading. Soviet anti-Catholic propaganda is finally being countered with the truth.


7 posted on 06/15/2013 4:25:45 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: NYer

When catholics have been slaughtered NO ONE ever comes to help them.

Under Communism in the former Soviet Union, Eastern Europe, Asia and Latin America no one helped the Catholics being slaughtered.. In Mexico, a hundred years ago, no one helped. In Africa and the Middle East today no one helped. In China, North Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia millions of Catholics were slaughtered. No one helped.

Catholics help others. NO ONE ever helps Catholics.


8 posted on 06/15/2013 4:36:01 PM PDT by detective
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Aside from ignoring other Christians and other religions and pretending that Catholics are hunted all over the world, you do have almost 50 years worth of American survivors of the Cold War here at freerepublic that would challenge you on some of that.

Mexico was almost 100% Catholic, that was just Mexicans fighting for power among themselves.


9 posted on 06/15/2013 4:45:59 PM PDT by ansel12 (Social liberalism/libertarianism, empowers, creates and imports, and breeds, economic liberals.)
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To: ansel12

You wrote:

“So isn’t just the Jews who loved those guys.”

You’re right. Protestants put both of them in office after all.


10 posted on 06/15/2013 4:58:28 PM PDT by vladimir998
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“Mexico was almost 100% Catholic, that was just Mexicans fighting for power among themselves.”

The people killing Mexican Catholics precisely because they were loyal to the Catholic Church were NOT Catholic. They were Masons and Marxists. It might help if you studied some history.


11 posted on 06/15/2013 5:00:47 PM PDT by vladimir998
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It is correct that 2 of the three times in history that the democrats have won a majority of the protestant vote, was for FDR in 1932 and 1936, but the protestant vote was against him by 1940 and in 1944, and it was overwhelmingly for Nixon in 1960, with the democrats always having won the Catholic vote, the Kennedys depended on the Catholic’s 80% support to take him to victory.

Mexico was almost 100% baptized members of the catholic denomination, so all the struggle was among Mexicans themselves.


12 posted on 06/15/2013 5:16:46 PM PDT by ansel12 (Social liberalism/libertarianism, empowers, creates and imports, and breeds, economic liberals.)
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To: ansel12

“Aside from ignoring other Christians and other religions”

I am not ignoring other Christians and other religions. The article was about Catholics protecting Jews before and during WWII. My point was simply that Catholics protected and helped Jews but that no one protected the Catholics that were being slaughtered at the same time in the former Soviet Union.

The Catholics slaughtered in Mexico were Catholics loyal to their faith. They were slaughtered by anti-Catholic Marxist and Masons who took over the Mexican government.

Catholics are being slaughtered today by Muslims in the Middle East and Africa. No one is helping to protect them?

Catholics were slaughtered in China, Cambodia and Vietnam. No one protected them.


13 posted on 06/15/2013 6:29:39 PM PDT by detective
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To: detective

The Soviet Union was against all religions, including all Christian denominations, including the largest one, the Orthodox, and Protestant America lost many lives and much wealth defeating the Soviet Union over a 75 year period.

“Marxist–Leninist atheism has consistently advocated the control, suppression, and elimination of religion. Within about a year of the revolution, the state expropriated all church property, including the churches themselves, and in the period from 1922 to 1926, 28 Russian Orthodox bishops and more than 1,200 (Orthodox) priests were killed. Many more were persecuted.
Christians belonged to various churches: Orthodox (which had the largest number of followers), Catholic, and Baptist and various other Protestant denominations. The majority of the Muslims in the Soviet Union were Sunni. Judaism also had many followers. Other religions, practiced by a small number of believers, included Buddhism and Shamanism.”

Mexico was almost 100% Catholic, and everything to the south of Mexico was Catholic, countries of 95% and more Catholic, even countries where law required the leaders to be Catholic.


14 posted on 06/15/2013 6:45:36 PM PDT by ansel12 (Social liberalism/libertarianism, empowers, creates and imports, and breeds, economic liberals.)
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To: detective

So as long as one is a Christian but not a member of the Catholic denomination, everything is OK in all those places?


15 posted on 06/15/2013 6:47:40 PM PDT by ansel12 (Social liberalism/libertarianism, empowers, creates and imports, and breeds, economic liberals.)
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To: ansel12
Other Christians were killed by Communists. Russian Orthodox members were persecuted. Communists killed other religions. Primarily Christians. I did not mean to imply other Christians have not been persecuted by Communists.

The article was about Catholics protecting the Jews. My point was no one protects Catholics. Lutherans also protected Jews in Germany under the NAZI’s. I could have said no one protects Christians. That would have also been correct.

I did not mean to diminish the suffering of faithful Christians who were non-Catholics.

I was commenting on the article.

16 posted on 06/15/2013 6:57:13 PM PDT by detective
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To: ansel12

Aren’t you going to provide a link to yet another worthless exit poll in a feeble attempt to bolster your assertion?


17 posted on 06/15/2013 7:01:53 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro can't pass E-verify)
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To: detective

Yes, other Christians indeed, Catholics were just a small number in the Soviet Union, the Orthodox were the masses, but what do you mean no one protects them, protects who, and how?

Where are the ovens running and who is being put into them?


18 posted on 06/15/2013 7:04:11 PM PDT by ansel12 (Social liberalism/libertarianism, empowers, creates and imports, and breeds, economic liberals.)
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19 posted on 06/15/2013 7:06:13 PM PDT by narses
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“Protestant America lost many lives and much wealth defeating the Soviet Union over a 75 year period.”

Protestant America did not defeat the Soviet Union over a 75 year period. Americans helped the Soviet union in the 1930’s. The Roosevelt Administration was very pro Soviet.

After WWII the anti-communists in our government were persecuted and forced out. MacArthur, Forestall, Joseph McCarthy, Richard Nixon and many others had their careers destroyed for standing up to Communists.

Truman was a pro-Communist and allowed the Soviet Empire to expand. His administration sabotaged Gen. MacArthur and American troops.

Politicians in Washington gave Soviets American weapons, technology and secrets. In the 1970’s under detente they financed the failed Soviet economy and protected it from collapse. Only Reagan worked to undermine Soviet evil empire. Lech Walesa, Pope John Paul and others helped bring about the downfall.

20 posted on 06/15/2013 7:12:26 PM PDT by detective
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