Posted on 05/30/2013 5:16:41 AM PDT by NYer
The worst of it, is that Dolan is a Kennedy-Coumo Catholic.
The fact that he’s supposed to be “spearheading the drive” to restore doctrinal soundness and religious liberty means that we’ve got a general from the other side.
“Amen I say to you, as long as you did it to one of these my least brethren, you did it to me.”
Kennedy made it clear his religion was one thing, his political office quite another. It was the type of covering argument used by the Jesuit priest and Mass. Rep. Robert Drinan as he lent every support he could to more liberal abortion laws.
The doctrine of separation of political action and religious belief has become so firmly established that how lately it was born is forgotten.
Paul had a solution for that IF aanyone were willing to follow his order.
I seem to recall the Catechism saying those who condone sin becomes sharers in it.
Journalist Tom Bethell has brought a lot of this corrupt relationship to the public eye. Hesburgh is probably THE lead heresiarch in the USA, and has enabled, sponsored, promoted (in some cases, literally tutored) the guilty-as-hell Catholic Democrat leadership for at least 50 years.
As Jesus said to the religious leaders of his day, ‘The kingdom will be taken away from you and given to a nation producing it's fruits’.
That's an excellent question, actually. From the git-go, you'd have to say Notre Dame and the CSC's. I'd like to see the history of that, and I wonder whether the contempoary journalist/historians (like Tom Bethell, Russell Shaw and Phil Lawler) have looked into that aspect. It has its own multi-generational nature, like a perverse line of succession.
That is, a "line of succession" of defectors-in-place, who refuse to listen to the Church (see tagline.)
He burned incense at the altar of Caesar but did so "under protest" so no wrong done.
IMO it gets far, far worse. I can't name a single US bishop (I'm looking at you, Chaput and Gomez) that has charted a different course on the hottest political/religious issues in our day (immigration, health care, communion for pro-abort pols) that runs counter to what Dolan has already done. I do not think there are any "conservative" Catholic bishops in the USA, as Free Republic would define "conservative".
Correct me if I'm wrong, but please give specific examples if you do.
AMEN!!! Wish I had said all that you did. But for those who may have any doubt about the worthlessness of Dolan, go back and re-read his Benediction to the Republican National Convention this past year. The laughing Cardinal’s single mentioning of Jesus was to include His name fourth (yes fourth) behind Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, for fear of offending the non-christians in the audience. No wonder the catholic Church continues to decline.
That line of “defectors-in-place” IS the Catholic church. The Pharisees Jesus confronted were not a few bad apples.
It’s interesting. You post the article criticizing Dolan, and then you run to the defense of the bishops. Puzzling. If I were a sceptic I might be inclined to believe that Cardinal Dolan, himself wrote your unabashed defense of the bishops of the Church. Note well, my criticism is not of the Church, but only of the bishops of the Church.
Like the bishops, you seem to believe that Christ set up His Church for the purpose of feeding the poor, clothing the naked, caring for the sick, educating the masses and so on. Respectfully, if that is what you believe, you are wrong. And if you didn’t know, the Church, prior to Vatican II, use to teach that as well. Check out the Baltimore Catechism some time and you’ll learn that Christ founded His Church for one reason––to lead all mankind to salvation––not to feed the poor.
The bishops, and apparently you as well, believe that the role of the Church is to compete with the federal, state, secular (including humanistic and atheistic) bureaucracies that have those same goals as well. Yes, the bishops are greatly praised by the NYT and the W/P for their great humanitarian efforts, but while they preen for the cameras, many souls that the Church was founded to serve are being lost by the wayside. They are, indeed, sheep without a shepherd.
As for the quaint notion that Catholic schools, at any level, have much if anything to do with teaching the Catholic faith, read up some time as to what, and by whom, is actually being taught in our Catholic grade schools and high schools today. The universities since the Land O Lakes agreement are an immoral disaster.
So although your praise of the work of the bishops may sound very “Catholic” to you and others (can you say low-information voter?), you have been greatly misled by those who have instructed you. May I suggest that you subscribe to the Catholic Family News or the Remnant news publications and read them for a few months. If you disagree with their points of view, fine; but at least you will have heard the other side, so to speak.
Check out #29: are there any bishops who are actually NOT Kennedy-Cuomo Catholics?
Talking issues, it would make sense to distinguish between two distinct, but broad and often overlapping and entangled categories: the "political/religious" issues, where there are some moral boundaries but no one right "doctrinal" path and you're dealing with prudential judgment (immigration, govt. health insurance per se); and the "moral/canonical" issues where there are sharp prohibitions and exceptionless norms (formal or proximate material cooperation in abortion, euthanasia, etc., sacrilegious administration of Sacraments.)
This last one, Canon 915, is both exceptionally grave and exceptionally clear-cut. To my knowledge, although maybe a dozen bishops have "admonished" obstinate offenders like Pelosi and Biden not to approach for Communion, only a very few are actually refusing Communion, which is what the Canon clearly mandates. The bishops of the three Kansas dioceses evidently gave a harrumph to some nameless parish priest in Kansas who gave Sebelius Communion. So that's something. But even considering that, action on the biggest most apodictic Big One can be rounded off to zero.
Any glimmers of diamonds in this sewer? Bruskewitz? Cordileone? --- what say ye, Salvation? Dr. Brian?
Mrs. Don-o, I think Raymond Cardinal Burke might fit the bill:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Leo_Burke
I’m not sure if he ever had the opportunity to actually refuse Communion to a pro-abort, but I am fairly certain he WOULD have.
Regards,
PS: I was rooting for him during the conclave.
Was the Church on the day Christ died embodied in Judas the betrayer? Peter the denier? The rest of them, cringing in fear under their beds somewhere? Or was the Church embodied in that small group --- John, Mary, a few others --- at the foot of the Cross?
Too bad he can decree but he can't enforce. Where's the Inquisition when you really need it?
BS. Most of those “Catholic” organizations are run by lay boards and staffed by the general population. The only thing that’s Catholic about them is history, the sign out front and a dividend check that goes to the convent to pay for geriatric care.
Otherwise, they’re no more Catholic than my cat.
BINGO!
I don’t understand how Benedict XVI could have elevated this man to Cardinal. This is so sad.
The nation of Israel as a whole was condemned, it could not be reformed or returned to some former glory days. There might have many “good” people in Jerusalem but the only means of avoiding her fate was to leave while possible.
Yes, but this is “the church” we’re talking about! some may say....Paul warned that even these grafted in limbs could be lopped off what came to be spiritual Israel.
“Was the Church on the day Christ died embodied in Judas the betrayer?”
Judas had already been expelled from the church before Christ's death and Peter repented and was forgiven as Jesus foretold.
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