Posted on 05/06/2013 6:11:01 AM PDT by NYer
Need more coffee to process this, ping!
Big bang comes at the end. Not at the beginning.
“Let there be Light”
So, is how the “virgin birth” was accomplished also left to science? Or would the church tell science to keep its bazoo out of it?
“...This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but a whimper.” - TS Eliot
In the beginning, God created.....nuff said.
I have no clue IF there was a ‘big bang’ when God spoke and nothing became His creation. I do long for the time when all these God did not do it crowd gets their own personal face to face with Him.
Makes me laugh all the hand wringing over having to explain every little detail....all I need to know:
New International Version (©2011)
“As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts.
We’ll get the whole story later! :)
Well, from our local perspective in spacetime, 13.82 billion, sure. But we also know time is relative, so this number is not absolutely true across the whole universe.
While it's true that the residual radiation was found by accident [by Bell Labs aka "the phone company", doing satcom research], a group from nearby Princeton was actually trying to find it.
Or what about the burning bush, or manna from heaven, or water from a rock?
Exactly. We are not as wise/smart as God and if he wanted us to know all the details He knows he would tell us. 13 billion years is but a blink of an eye to Him.
I will find out the answer someday.
I’d like to know from the Big-Bangers:
Where did the matter that ‘exploded’ into our universe come from in the first place?
Where did the ‘energy’ come from in the first place?
Where is the scientific evidence for that?
Nowhere ...
Where did the ‘energy’ come from in the first place?
From nothing ...
Where is the scientific evidence for that?
"We don't need no stinking ..." ... evidence.
The “big bang” is not a sufficient explanation for the origin of the universe.
"Cosmology In Burkhard Heim's theory both the metronic size z and the largest diameter D depend on the age of the universe. The dependence is such that D is expanding and z is contracting, so that D was smaller in the past and z was larger. It stands to reason that at one time in the distant past the surface area of a sphere of diameter D in our 3-dimensional world was equal to the size of z.
This instant marks the origin of the universe and of time. The mathematical relation between D and z is not simple, so that 3 different values of D are found to satisfy the criterion that the area of a sphere of diameter D be equal to z at the beginning of time. Evidently, the universe started as a trinity of spheres, whose diameters turn out to be(in meters):
D1 = 0.90992 m, D2 = 1.06426 m, D3 = 3.70121 m.
This trinity of spheres has important bearings on the structure of elementary particles.
From the first moment on the univese begun to expand, though at a slower rate than is presently predicted on the basis of the red shift of distant galaxis (see the Appendix). Heim’s theory results in a present age of the universe approximately equal to 5.45 x 10^107 years, and a diameter D of about 6.37 x 10^109 light years. During most of its existence the universe consisted of an empty metronic lattice, whose metrons kept getting smaller as the universe grew larger. Eventually, metrons became small enough for matter to come into existence. This may have occurred some 15-40 billion (10^9) years ago, at which time matter was created throughout the volume of the universe. Hence, according to heim matter did not originate very soon after a “big bang” explosion but more uniformly in scattered “fire-cracker” like bursts, perhaps of galactic proportions. Spontaneous uniform creation of matter, coupled with the partly attractive and partly repulsive force of gravity mentioned in Section 3 resulted in the observed large-scale galactic structure of the universe. Creation of matter continues to this day, though on a very much reduced scale."
Note that Heim's theory is based on the calculus of finite differences. There are no infinities or singularities. Things get small and large, but everything is still countable.
The Church teaches that God created the heavens and the earth. The Church does not propose a technical explanation of “ how” this happened... just that it did and that God was the prime mover.
Though discerning by electric rather than candle light of how He did it means that we have studied and understand at least some of His mechanisms quite well.
It doesn't need to.... "So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it." (Isaiah 55:11)...That same word that went into Lazurus' tomb and brought him forth did also... "By the word of the Lord were the heavens made; and all the host of them by the breath of his mouth....For he spake, and it was done; he commanded, and it stood fast"(Psalm 33:6,9)
God spake, and it was done; God commanded, and it stood fast.
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