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4 Truths About Hell
Is the doctrine of hell incompatible with the way of Jesus Christ?
The Aquila Report ^
| 4-6-13
| Tom Ascol
Posted on 04/06/2013 10:46:39 AM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: ReformationFan
Yeshua made it plain what would happen to those he never knew.
They cannot blame him; it is their own rejection of him that condemns them.
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posted on
04/06/2013 10:52:16 AM PDT
by
editor-surveyor
(Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
To: ReformationFan
I just pray that, as the Lord desires for everyone to be saved, His will may be done, and hopefully few will end up in such a horrible place.
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posted on
04/06/2013 10:56:32 AM PDT
by
Boogieman
To: ReformationFan
Hell is real. Most of us are going there. The only place that I vary from the aforementioned doctrine being that after the sinner has undergone sufficient punishment, which balances his deeds, God will totally destroy him. Total annihilation being the "Second Death" mentioned in the bible.
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posted on
04/06/2013 11:00:41 AM PDT
by
AEMILIUS PAULUS
(It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
To: ReformationFan
Here’s a question for everyone: If Christian kills himself, will he go to Hell?
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posted on
04/06/2013 11:01:04 AM PDT
by
BenLurkin
(This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
To: ReformationFan
I consider it one of the separating factors between God and Jesus (which as a trinitarian, I believe are simulataneously the same and separate entities).
God is not the forgiver, Jesus is.
God sends you to hell. Jesus does not.
If you view God as an omnipotent, generally detached entity and Jesus as being one that understands and cares for man, then it starts to make more sense.
Do we care for the fire ants that we toss poison on so they stop biting our feet? Not really. In fact, not at all.
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posted on
04/06/2013 11:02:31 AM PDT
by
TheZMan
(Buy more ammo.)
To: ReformationFan
The question should be ?
The doctrine or shall I say, the false teaching of ALL will be saved.
Opps !! sorry rich man in the gosple who would not even give Lazarious even a morsal of food or drink.
Yes, make no mistake about it, that rich man yearned to even get a taste of water on his tounge... but, he went to hell and torment.
He could see over a wide gulf Lazerious in the heart of Abraham, and in paradise and wanted to warm his own family of Hell and Torment.
Now back to the question at hand, will ALL be saved ?
Those who believe that ALL will be saved will have to reconcile what Jesus taught, in that he talked about those who would be cast out into outer darkness, gnashing their teeth.
To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
Hmm. First death is a physical death. Second death is a spiritual death. As best as I’ve been able to glean, that death is being thrown into fire everlasting. It wouldn’t make sense to be “destroyed” if the fire was everlasting.
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posted on
04/06/2013 11:04:01 AM PDT
by
TheZMan
(Buy more ammo.)
To: editor-surveyor
" Yeshua made it plain what would happen to those he never knew. "
Those in whom he knew... i.e. who got saved, born again, those who were chosen IN CHRIST before the foundations of the world.
i.e. predestination.
To: ReformationFan
Why did there have to be any description of hell in the bible? It seems that it's primary purpose would be to frighten people into accepting Jesus, which wouldn't seem to be a legitimate reason to accept Christ. So why not just leave hell out of the bible rather than seemingly use it as a sort of emotional blackmail to accept Christ.
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posted on
04/06/2013 11:04:54 AM PDT
by
bramps
(Sarah Palin got more votes in 2008 than Mitt Romney got in 2012)
To: ReformationFan
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posted on
04/06/2013 11:07:33 AM PDT
by
INVAR
("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
To: American Constitutionalist
Predestination is where we naturally land when trying to understand the verses you’ve mentioned because we can’t fathom that concept any other way - but predestination cannot be the case. Perhaps being not limited by time it was known whether we would make the choice or not before we made it. It was still our choice to make, however.
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posted on
04/06/2013 11:09:28 AM PDT
by
TheZMan
(Buy more ammo.)
To: BenLurkin
NO...but of course most Christians wouldn’t consider that.
You could say it’s murder...be another individual or oneself...it’s taking a life...just as in abortion.
All of which are covered and forgiven if they are in Christ....but woe to them before they do the deed...
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posted on
04/06/2013 11:11:01 AM PDT
by
caww
To: BenLurkin
the answer is NO. If a Christian steals will he go to hell? NO. If he commits adultery will he go to hell, NO. It is not the degree of sin that sends someone to hell, BUT for this one sin: rejecting what God's Son did for you on that Cross. Yes, that cross that had your sins (all of them large and small) nailed to it. God's question to you will have nothing to do with sin as they died on that cross with Christ. God's question to you will not mention sin at all (they don't exist anymore) but will be: what did you do with what my son did for you on that cross. Any one who does not understand this, does not know Bible doctrine.
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posted on
04/06/2013 11:13:05 AM PDT
by
fish hawk
(no tyrant can remain in power without the consent and cooperation of his victims.)
To: BenLurkin
Heres a question for everyone: If Christian kills himself, will he go to Hell? In a very real sense Jesus killed himself, after all he said: "I lay my life down, nobody takes it from me, but I lay it down willingly." (John 10:18)
So, if (a) the death of Jesus was suicide; (b) Jesus was a man [fully human]; and (c) Jesus is/will-be in heaven, then it cannot be said that everyone who kills themselves will be in hell.
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posted on
04/06/2013 11:14:31 AM PDT
by
OneWingedShark
(Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
To: ReformationFan
The idea of eternal punishment for sin, he further notes, is a doctrine that put cruelty in the world and gave the world generations of cruel torture. Don't mean to make light of such a deep subject that we really know very little about. But my reaction in reading this ... is ... what if a person chooses to suffer? We hear a lot about choice. If people are told they have a choice to live in the big house or live outside and they choose outside who am I to judge :-) Of course the deeper problem is there are people - past, present, future - who really aren't clearly presented with this choice. so I find that part of the doctrine to be difficult. Where I come out is ... I don't know what happens to those people. All I know is they are not with God.
To: bramps
LOL, so you think that “jail” or the death penalty should not be mentioned to criminals. come on , wake up.
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posted on
04/06/2013 11:16:41 AM PDT
by
fish hawk
(no tyrant can remain in power without the consent and cooperation of his victims.)
To: bramps
There are many things in the Bible we may not like....but it does not make them less true for it.
why define fear as a bad thing...it's healthy to have fear when appropriate. ...it protects, warns and lets us know we likely need to change direction.
God would have all to be saved and be with Him...that's His plan. He finds no pleasure whatsoever in the death of the wicked....rather that they would come to Him thru Christ and be in eternity with Him...but it's a choice.
The choice is to be with God or eternally forever separated from God.....and it's a choice of each individual.
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posted on
04/06/2013 11:16:49 AM PDT
by
caww
To: plain talk
No one is condemned to hell that has not heard the story and had the chance to accept or reject. Says so right there in the book.
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posted on
04/06/2013 11:17:00 AM PDT
by
TheZMan
(Buy more ammo.)
To: plain talk
I’m sure we can trust God knows those people who have not the ability nor have heard the Gospel....should they die...He will surely make the right call concerning them. He made them, he assuredly knows them far more then we.
I think , though, the question really is about if God is good or not...not so much what about the people. After all He is the creator...so the question really is how and who do we see God as.
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posted on
04/06/2013 11:20:48 AM PDT
by
caww
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