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Tarot readers and fortune tellers cannot save you, says Pope Francis [Ecumenical]
Catholic Herald ^ | 04/05/13 | Madeleine Teahan

Posted on 04/05/2013 11:48:15 AM PDT by Pyro7480

Salvation can only come through Jesus Christ, not through tarot readers and fortune tellers, Pope Francis has said.

Preaching at morning Mass at the Domus Sanctae Marthae in Rome today, Pope Francis said: "In order to solve their problems many people resort to fortune tellers and tarot cards. But only Jesus saves, and we must bear witness to this! He is the only one."

"Mary always leads us to Jesus, as she did at Cana when she said: 'Do whatever he tells you'. Let us trust in the name of Jesus, let us invoke the name of Jesus, and let the Holy Spirit push us to say this prayer trusting in the name of Jesus...it will do us all good....in this world that offers us so many saviours, it is only the name of Jesus that saves."

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TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: catholic; francis; pope
Amen.
1 posted on 04/05/2013 11:48:15 AM PDT by Pyro7480
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To: Siobhan; Canticle_of_Deborah; NYer; Salvation; american colleen; Desdemona; StAthanasiustheGreat; ..

Catholic ping!


2 posted on 04/05/2013 11:48:57 AM PDT by Pyro7480 (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: Pyro7480

Such divination is hugely popular in Latin America, as Francis well knows.


3 posted on 04/05/2013 11:58:38 AM PDT by jboot (It can happen here because it IS happening here.)
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To: Pyro7480

...or Obama.


4 posted on 04/05/2013 12:02:27 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: Pyro7480

These folks didn’t get the word:

The Christian Tarot Reader - Tarot for Christians - Promoting Christian Acceptance and Use of Tarot

http://www.christiantarot.org


5 posted on 04/05/2013 12:08:00 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: jboot

Heck, it’s highly popular in North America, too. I lived in a town in Northern California that must have supported half of India as “palm readers.” (A lot of the palmists and tarot card readers were Indians - or gypsies.) The red-neon outlined hand was about the most common sign in town.

I’ll never figure it out. People won’t go to church and don’t accept religious faith, but then they’ll go to some shady dive and spend a bundle on these “fortune tellers” and act as if that’s somehow perfectly reasonable.


6 posted on 04/05/2013 12:12:45 PM PDT by livius
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To: Pyro7480

I miss Miss Cleo.


7 posted on 04/05/2013 12:24:35 PM PDT by YourAdHere (Obama has herpes.)
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To: YourAdHere

I always thought, why should you have to call psychic hot lines, shouldn’t they be calling you?


8 posted on 04/05/2013 12:25:52 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Pyro7480

Devotions to these activities won't save you, either.

9 posted on 04/05/2013 12:34:47 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: livius

Yes, and they’ll believe in aliens and ghosts but not the Holy Ghost.


10 posted on 04/05/2013 12:54:25 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: fishtank

Maybe you don’t think prayer and contemplation are good things, but I wouldn’t foist that on other Christians.


11 posted on 04/05/2013 12:55:34 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: fishtank

Bttt....


12 posted on 04/05/2013 1:08:53 PM PDT by yellowdoghunter
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To: fishtank

Yes, praying is dangerous for your soul. A good Christian never does anything as immoral as praying. Especially that dangerous Lord’s Prayer.


13 posted on 04/05/2013 1:12:03 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: Pyro7480

To approach people about fortune telling, it helps to know what is called “the fortune teller’s paradox”. That, is, that people do not go to a fortune teller to have their future divined, but in the odd hope that the fortune teller can somehow *change* their future.

So for persons of faith, it helps to change their approach somewhat, to people who muck around with astrology, fortune telling and the like. Instead of pointing out the blindingly obvious that it doesn’t work, approach them from the point of view of helping someone to change their life for the better. This is something that faith *can* do, that fortune tellers cannot.

In short, they want personal change, so offer them personal change. Not directly from you, but to guide them to find and make change, with some heavenly help, in themselves.


14 posted on 04/05/2013 1:24:20 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: fishtank
The Church makes no such claim about sacramentals, as the Baltimore Catechism itself explains.
15 posted on 04/05/2013 1:28:09 PM PDT by Pyro7480 (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: fishtank

“Devotions to these activities won’t save you, either. “ - pictures of a rosary and a scapular.

In the Catholic Church we do have what we call “pious devotions”. They are forms of prayer that inspire us to meditate on the life of Jesus Christ. No one is required to use these prayers. They are tools that can strengthen our love of the Holy Trinity or specifically Jesus.

During Lent, our attention is on the impending death of the Lord, Jesus. Thus on Good Friday evening at Tenabrae we sing, “Oh, crucified Messiah, Oh, crucified Redeemer, Son of God Most Holy, Crucifed for us.”


16 posted on 04/05/2013 2:56:37 PM PDT by Gumdrop
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To: Jyotishi
No, it's just excuse-making. I've also seen a book by a lady who claimed you could be a good Catholic and read Tarot cards by saying a prayer before you start.

Not buying it. I used to be a very good Tarot card reader, with the entire deck and its symbolism completely committed to memory (and a collection of 50 or so historic decks). I gave it up when I converted.

It attracts the wrong kind of supernatural interest, if you know what I mean. Not as badly as Ouija boards which scare the fire out of me, but bad enough.

17 posted on 04/05/2013 3:37:09 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGS Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: fishtank
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18 posted on 04/05/2013 6:14:11 PM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: Pyro7480

Dealing with an elderly parent being scammed by Maria Duval,psychic scammer. Not happy about it.
Her address is in dirty harry reid’s distict. They should be shut down.


19 posted on 04/05/2013 6:24:05 PM PDT by sunny48
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To: fishtank; Pyro7480; D-fendr

I know why the devil is afraid of symbols of prayer and devotion to God.
I don't know why you are.


20 posted on 04/05/2013 6:49:08 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("You can observe a lot just by watchin'." - Yogi Berra)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
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21 posted on 04/05/2013 8:05:14 PM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: johngrace

Love that, Johngrace! May St. Benedict, by the power of God, put the demons to flight!


22 posted on 04/05/2013 8:20:01 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("You can observe a lot just by watchin'." - Yogi Berra)
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To: fishtank

WOW....all the way to Post 9 until the Anti-Catholic bashing begins. ha.

Those items pictured are not venerated as Jesus is, but are reminders to help mortals remember in the hum drum of daily life to focus on God.

Par for the course...Catholic bashers are ignorant of the catholic faith, but feel free to bash away.


23 posted on 04/05/2013 8:28:00 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Go Galt!)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Very excellant post.


24 posted on 04/05/2013 8:29:00 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Go Galt!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Yes. Jesus with his prays do. I gave a blessed anointed St Ben medal and cloth to my friend whose wife is into spellcasting. She falls down when he takes it out of his wallet. She is prayer work in progress. Jesus gives us tools. That medal is a living prayer inscribed. I wear to bed. I have not have threaten dreams/nightmares in years.


25 posted on 04/05/2013 8:55:26 PM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Good points


26 posted on 04/05/2013 8:57:49 PM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

You ever read about Father Paul of Moll. He used these medals all the time. I do not know why he is not a Formal Saint yet. My mother had his book when growing up. The charismatic movement book catalog had it.


27 posted on 04/05/2013 9:02:00 PM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

http://books.google.com/books?id=veiHYU6-SSEC&printsec=frontcover&dq=inauthor:%22%C3%89douard+D%C3%A9sir%C3%A9+Marie+Joseph+van+Speybrouck%22&hl=en&sa=X&ei=ep5fUeD6AZKW8gSQnYHYCg&ved=0CDEQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false


28 posted on 04/05/2013 9:03:58 PM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: johngrace

Thanks for this, johngrace.


29 posted on 04/06/2013 5:14:44 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("You can observe a lot just by watchin'." - Yogi Berra)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

It is a free e-book. I have it on my tablet.


30 posted on 04/06/2013 11:26:43 AM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: stylecouncilor

“Oh I do, I do, I do believe in spooks.”

Not really.

Hertz this week: The Dietary Laws, and the same word - “tinshemet” - used for “bird” (LEV XI:18) and “reptile” (XI:30).


31 posted on 04/06/2013 11:55:01 AM PDT by onedoug
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