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It is impossible to even give a cursory overview of all this in the 100 word limit allowed for this (which is wrong in my view), so see the rest here :

Despite her revulsion at Pat Robertson's comments, they are indeed generally accurate in the overall sense (with witchcraft being rebellion), but even abortionists and communists can value hospitality, and show some sacrifice and integrity.

Nor are all those who protest "gay" parades part of Fred Phelps' tribe, or make it wrong.

But she was also valued morality, and was a seeker, and if one obeys the light they have, more will be given, and confronted with the reality of Hell, she did not rationalize it away, but being called of God, she found Him.

Note that while God promises understanding after obedience, this is not blind faith, but a step of faith for which God has provided some warrant, and which step is confirmed.

And in being drawn of God, He used believers who geuninley cared for her as a whole person, which is what Christian love does, and a church which was not mostly ritual, but relationship.

None of which is contrary to confrontational evangelism, if done out of a heart that genuinely cares for souls, but not simply for their soul, though that must be primary and salvation and sanctification the goal.

1 posted on 02/08/2013 6:58:58 PM PST by daniel1212
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2 posted on 02/08/2013 7:04:47 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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I continue to be alarmed by the ongoing contempt/hatred of Christianity from individuals I thought I knew. Fortunately, Christianity has a built-in firewall that helps manage one’s reaction to such revelations. Whenever provided, the reasons for the contempt are not reflective of Christ, but of flawed cultural messaging and perceptions.


4 posted on 02/08/2013 7:18:49 PM PST by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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thanks for the post. great job pastor ken, gently making that small opening for Him.


6 posted on 02/08/2013 7:30:30 PM PST by dadfly
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What a powerful testimony.


7 posted on 02/08/2013 7:33:20 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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Eternal Salvation comes somewhat disguised in a plain brown wrapper...

Rejected by the intellectuals and the wealthy, but grabbed on to as a life preserver by the failing, the poor, the destitute and other less fortunate souls in this incarnation.

The last shall be first and the first shall be last...


8 posted on 02/08/2013 7:40:51 PM PST by One Name (Ultimately, the TRUTH is a razor's edge and no man can sit astride it.)
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I accepted Jesus as a matter of fact when I was a child. As I grew up to many things made me rethink his existence. To many facts are missing,, undocumented, and lacking and form of proof.

NOT one document was EVER survived or even mentioned where as enough writings of everyone else of any importance has survived. Jesus was not even mentioned by anyone with the exception of Paul and the Disciples, and THAT only occurred over two Decades after his was supposedly crucified.

Even Herod’s records of crucifixions make no mention of Christ or anyone but criminals, political enemies, captured soldiers but no religious profits.

Nor is there any mention anywhere that Jesus EVER wrote - period. It is also noted that NONE of his disciples were ever capable of writing. No scribes were ever mentioned which many illiterate (most were so).

Only Paul wrote but 1. he was not a disciple, 2. He was a Roman Citizen and well educated in Greek and other languages. His writings are prolific.

I have become closer to the fact that there is definitely a God. I see it not only in everything around me but also in the actual evolution of mankind and every creature on this planet.

Jesus may have existed. I can’t say - but his teachings (or whoever originated the concepts attributed to him), definitely were extremely important to mankind.


9 posted on 02/08/2013 7:49:06 PM PST by jongaltsr
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I was a Buddhist right up to the moment I became a Christian. I had seen Christian treat each other (and myself) incredibly poorly and decided, if that was what it meant to be a Christian, I wanted none of it.

I’m now a worship leader/music director at a church in north Phoenix and have self-produced two CD of original Christian songs. God has such a sense of humor. The fact that He’s let me live is proof!


10 posted on 02/08/2013 7:56:57 PM PST by stansblugrassgrl (PRAISE THE LORD AND PASS THE AMMUNITION!!! YEEEEEHAW!)
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Wow.

This article doesn't go into it, but this had to have cost her everything she valued at that time.

Jesus said, “Truly, I say to you, there is no one who has left house or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or lands, for my sake and for the gospel, who will not receive a hundredfold now in this time, houses and brothers and sisters and mothers and children and lands, with persecutions, and in the age to come eternal life.

11 posted on 02/08/2013 7:58:55 PM PST by Lee N. Field ("You keep using that verse, but I do not think it means what you think it means." --I. Montoya)
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Daniel, there is not a 100 word limit on excerpts; in fact it is 300.

Some entities are not on the excerpt list...Christianity Today is one of the ones not there.

So the whole article can be posted.

You can always check on This Thread (<---click there) to see if a particular newspaper or website is on the must excerpt list.

16 posted on 02/08/2013 8:30:10 PM PST by Syncro ("So?" - Andrew Breitbart The King of All Media (RIP Feb 1, 1969 – Mar 1, 2012)
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God promises understanding after obedience

This is the hardest part for some to cross. I have said "If you're not going to believe what he says, why should he talk to you?" But this hasn't always "worked"--they can't do it somehow. Sometimes I think the less said, the better.

17 posted on 02/08/2013 8:41:31 PM PST by firebrand
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Interesting what a google search can turn up.

She mentioned Syracuse in the article and I began so suspect that she lived in Syracuse, otherwise, she would not have been able to establish a friendship easily with the pastor and his wife.

That led me to suspect Syracuse University as her place of employment.

Sure enough......

http://www.ipcsav.org/article/false-identity/

“At the age of 28 years, Rosaria was finishing a PhD in English Literature & Cultural Studies and working as a teaching associate in the Women’s Studies Department at Syracuse University, one of the strongest such departments in the nation. “


21 posted on 02/08/2013 9:07:17 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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Ultimately it is always about attraction rather than promotion. By living the Word, Pastor Ken and his wife Floy showed what a Christian walk looks like. An amazing story thanks for sharing it


33 posted on 02/08/2013 10:31:36 PM PST by Nifster
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Wow! What wonderful testimony. Lot’s of lessons in that story.


38 posted on 02/09/2013 12:13:43 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ and him crucified. 1 Corinthians 2:2)
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I fought with everything I had. I did not want this. I did not ask for this. I counted the costs. And I did not like the math on the other side of the equal sign. But God...

Like every blessed conversion. Praise be to God for His grace and mercy.

And...it's good to know she's going to a Reformed church. ;O)

43 posted on 02/09/2013 3:03:14 AM PST by HarleyD
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It’s called “irresistible grace”.


44 posted on 02/09/2013 3:10:48 AM PST by circlecity
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Interesting that she is now a pastor’s wife in a Presbyterian denomination that practices the regulative principle of worship, i.e., exclusive psalmody without instruments. Definitely a world that’s a far cry from the left-wing/feminist/lesbian one she used to inhabit.


70 posted on 02/09/2013 7:55:36 AM PST by ReformationFan
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God’s grace is freakin awesome !!!


90 posted on 02/09/2013 2:58:40 PM PST by gitmo ( If your theology doesn't become your biography it's useless.)
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A powerful testimony to the power of Jesus to change lives.


99 posted on 02/09/2013 5:24:39 PM PST by Fzob (In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. Jefferson)
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I’m reading her book right now. Very moving.


103 posted on 02/09/2013 8:15:26 PM PST by Gamecock ( If we distort the gospel, that distortion will influence and affect everything else that we believe)
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I'm on the publisher's email list, so I get mailing from them from time to time. These came in one such this week:

Marvin Olasky Interview with Rosaria Butterfield; January 11, 2013 Youtube, an hour

Conversations that Matter: Homosexuality & the Christian Faith Q&A . Youtube 1.5 hour

Tin Challies and David Murray podcast: The Testimony of an Unlikely Convert, audio, a half hour.

Carl Trueman Much Better Than the Daily Mail

Third, it shows how conversion often does not immediately solve problems. Butterfield's description of the impact of her conversion is 'comprehensive chaos.' It shattered her career, her network of friends, her reputation with those she loved. It left her confused and at times lonely and depressed. This is no Hallmark Channel production; it is raw and real, chaotic and messy.  

Fourth, for those satisfied with the broad evangelical type of reformed evangelicalism, it is a paean to the delights of deeply rooted, confessional Reformed Christianity. For instance, Butterfield's knowledge of social and critical theory means that she understands at a profound level how world-view communities are formed, how the intricate network of ideas, social conventions and narratives combine to forge identity and outlook. It reminded me of why I am myself a 'sectarian' as some have said, and happy to operate in a small, culturally irrelevant denomination. I need roots, I need stable, biblically based, historically tested and ecclesiastically responsible theology. That is what confessional churches provide. And only such provide.

Carl Truman is always worth reading.

Book is on order.

144 posted on 02/16/2013 8:49:01 AM PST by Lee N. Field ("You keep using that verse, but I do not think it means what you think it means." --I. Montoya)
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