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My Gay Roommate
Patheos ^ | 11/28/12 | Eric Teetsel

Posted on 01/21/2013 11:12:50 AM PST by rhema

Tim and I met a few years ago at a 24 watch party. His natural intelligence, unabashed geekiness, and “Snaps” skills made us quick friends. Plus, he managed a Starbucks so there was free coffee in it for me.

Before long, I needed a new place to live and so did he. With a third friend, we rented a house together. Our friendship grew. Soon, I discovered that Tim is a serious Christian whose poignant reflections on faith and life set him apart from the pack. He was an usher in my wedding. One day, Tim told me that he had been in a years-long battle with same-sex attraction. Thus began a new aspect of our friendship.

I don’t know if my feeble attempts to support him helped at all, but Tim’s transparency was important for me. I learned a lot about the many different ways individuals experience homosexual inclination, the extent of sexual promiscuity amongst gays, and what is and isn’t helpful for those of us seeking to love our friends and family members grappling with homosexuality.

One lesson in particular stands out from the rest. Tim vacillated between acceptance of his sexual inclinations and the greater calling of his faith for years before finally finding rest in the decision to let Jesus be enough. That arduous journey was made much, much more difficult by voices from within the Church encouraging him to embrace his inclination to homosexuality.

During times when I wonder if my work with the Manhattan Declaration is worth it, I think about Tim. I imagine what it would be like if friends, counselors, pastors, and theologians worked to convince me that my greatest struggles with sin were unnecessary. That to be prideful, lusty, and greedy is just “how I was made” and that God loves me just the same. How tempting to believe such a lie! How much would I need voices of truth reminding me of my higher calling? To remind me that while God loves me just as I am, He loves me enough to make possible something greater?

When it comes to policy, God’s purpose for each human life is not an argument that yields great results in the public square. And that’s okay. Science, reason, and experience ought to form the basis of our arguments; ultimately, all truth points to the Creator. But the Manhattan Declaration is about much more than just public policy. Its subtitle is “A call of Christian conscience.” We aim to remind the Church of its role as the voice of Truth, no matter the prevailing tides in the broader culture or politics. To speak Truth is to love.

Learn more about Tim’s story in his own words! Check out the video below.


TOPICS: Evangelical Christian; General Discusssion; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: celebratesin; christianity; culturewar; gay; homosexualagenda; manhattandeclaration; moralabsolutes

1 posted on 01/21/2013 11:12:53 AM PST by rhema
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To: lightman; SmithL
We aim to remind the Church of its role as the voice of Truth, no matter the prevailing tides in the broader culture or politics. To speak Truth is to love.
2 posted on 01/21/2013 11:13:54 AM PST by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: rhema

What’s a 24 watch party..? What are snapz skillz..?


3 posted on 01/21/2013 11:22:33 AM PST by gaijin
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To: rhema

A “serious Christian” is not going to be a homosexual unless they are celibate and repetent about it


4 posted on 01/21/2013 11:27:40 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: rhema
Snaps skills??? or am i better off not knowing...
5 posted on 01/21/2013 11:28:29 AM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: rhema

Thank God his college friend knew how to respond in a loving and healing way to his confession.

We all struggle with one call to the wild or other. We are blessed if it is not addictive mind altering, soul distroying substance abuse, criminality or sexual obsessions and addictions. That is a hard row to hoe.


6 posted on 01/21/2013 11:34:01 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: SaraJohnson

That’s an infected row to NOT hoe.


7 posted on 01/21/2013 11:38:19 AM PST by gaijin
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To: rhema

I knew a number of gay men in college. One was grad student who rented a big house off campus, from which some friends and I sub-rented rooms.

“Dave” was a bright guy, funny and didn’t really “act gay.” We would occasionally meet his “boyfriends” though. Its where I started to get the idea that homosexuality is inextricably linked with mental disease. These “boyfriends” were almost to a one quite troubled - addictions of all kinds, unstable family backgrounds, flighty, nervous, sometimes suicidal, and even often victims of violence (from other gays).

I felt sorry for most of them, as they all seemed to be fighting some very strong demons.


8 posted on 01/21/2013 11:42:50 AM PST by PGR88
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To: rhema
"...voices from within the Church encouraging him to embrace his inclination to homosexuality."

Marvelous. /s

9 posted on 01/21/2013 11:44:07 AM PST by Past Your Eyes (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it.)
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To: gaijin

A 24 watch party I’m familiar with. Its getting together with friends to watch Keifer Sutherland kill terrorists. Snaps skills? Haha, you got me there!


10 posted on 01/21/2013 11:56:46 AM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: GeronL

As I read the article, that’s the decision the gay guy made. He couldn’t help his inclination, but he decided to resist them and center his life on Christ.


11 posted on 01/21/2013 12:03:49 PM PST by Hootowl
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To: rhema

>>> voices from within the Church encouraging him to embrace his inclination to homosexuality.>>>

In the 1930’s the Church was invaded by Communists pretending to be Catholic in order to enter the seminaries. In the years since, they’ve become priests, pastors, bishops. Their stealth and lying went unknown until the law suits began. Pray for your church, whichever Christian religion it is. Report them to whatever authority is above them.


12 posted on 01/21/2013 12:05:30 PM PST by kitkat
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To: Hootowl

That’s what I got out of it too. I believe homosexuality is a form of sexual addiction, it’s not unlike other addictions. It doesn’t need to rule you either. He’s finding power through Christ to live a life on a better foundation. I hope he gets a wife, has kids, grand-kids - all to enjoy and support him as he gets old...all while avoiding the very real health implications of being in the gay community.

The mistake our society is making is telling people that if they think, at a young age, they have some “same sex inclinations” that they should embrace them, engage in and celebrate. It doesn’t mean though that a young person can’t be influenced by culture to be less likely to adopt a certain orientation (naturally, not intimidation) - I don’t believe it is fixed at birth, just influenced by many factors. In our pop-culture, good luck - the message is clear, go for it (for all things “sex”). You can only ignore the consequences of sexual immorality to be okay with it. Even when the consequences happen, the connection isn’t made either (blame others).


13 posted on 01/21/2013 12:44:10 PM PST by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing consequences of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: kitkat
In the 1930’s the Church was invaded by Communists pretending to be Catholic in order to enter the seminaries. In the years since, they’ve become priests, pastors, bishops. Their stealth and lying went unknown until the law suits began. Pray for your church...

An article on the subject:

How Support for Abortion Became Kennedy Dogma [and the priests who encouraged this heresy]

14 posted on 01/21/2013 12:46:57 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Gun control is hitting what you aim at. -- Chuck Norris)
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To: PGR88

...most of the ones I’ve known are the most insecure and emotionally immature people I’ve ever met. I can understand the insecurity, it’s more of the emotional maturity that seems to be more of the issue.

So...yes, many demons, I also feel sorry for them. Many never knew much of a normal life and have embraced a lifestyle that will never give them one either :( ...it will only bring them pain. Nobody likes to talk about the negatives of being gay, there’s so many (health, no kids, etc.)...how can that lead to happiness?


15 posted on 01/21/2013 12:52:35 PM PST by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing consequences of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: GeronL
A “serious Christian” is not going to be a homosexual unless they are celibate and repetent about it.

True. But it sounds like this guy decided to be celibate.

16 posted on 01/21/2013 1:22:22 PM PST by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare)
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To: rhema

I believe “snaps” means photography.

This is a very touching post.


17 posted on 01/21/2013 4:38:39 PM PST by dixjea
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To: Albion Wilde

Revealing.


18 posted on 01/21/2013 4:39:06 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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Excellent article! I was scared when I saw the headline... Thanks for posting it, rhema.

19 posted on 01/21/2013 5:59:09 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: gaijin

lol


20 posted on 01/21/2013 6:07:47 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: GeronL

A “serious Christian” is not going to be a homosexual unless they are celibate and repetent about it


A “serious Christian” is not going to be a drunkard

A “serious Christian” is not going to be unfaithful

A “serious Christian” is not going to be envious

A “serious Christian” is not going to be deceitful

I always thought a “serious Christian” was a sinner who needs Christ.


21 posted on 01/21/2013 6:10:45 PM PST by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Fair is a place you go to eat cotton candy and step in monkey poop)
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To: GeronL
A “serious Christian” is not going to be a homosexual unless they are celibate and repetent about it

I agree, someone cannot be a "serious Christian" and live an immoral lifestyle of any kind.

Everyone has their own set of struggles and weaknesses in temptation. I really feel sorry for someone who is tempted in that area.

It's that *sin that so easily besets us* thing.

22 posted on 01/21/2013 8:20:56 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: rhema
Good article! I just saw an article a few days ago from the Los Angeles Times about "scientists" discovering a biological connection to pedophilia in some people. Just as the so-called consensus now, that homosexuality is inborn, it won't be long before the inclination of adult men to have sex with young children will also have to be accepted by society and become a new "right". Just shows what happens when nations abandon God and His principles and reach the point where "every man does what is right in his own eyes".

I'm happy that "Tim" has discovered that the Lord gives strength to those who desire to obey Him regardless of their human wants OR needs. Many people do as he said, even in some churches, and they actually encourage others to do things they KNOW is a sin, all in the attempt to appear "cool" or with it or understanding. Homosexuality is certainly nothing new. It obviously was a problem almost from the time mankind began, and God NEVER condoned the actions - He calls it an abomination. Just as He does, we should love the sinner (since we all are sinners) but hate the sin and we CAN help fellow Christians to overcome any sin in their lives so that they are free to serve God in truth and honor Him with bodies that are "living sacrifices" to His glory.

23 posted on 01/21/2013 10:36:53 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: PGR88

I have known quite a few gay & lesbians, and can count on one hand, not a full hand, the “stable” ones. And of those, only one seemed to be pretty downright normal. All of the others make me sad to think about what went wrong in their lives, what terrible burden that they must be carrying, that only faith and forgiveness can heal.


24 posted on 01/21/2013 10:53:34 PM PST by ican'tbelieveit (School is prison for children who have commited the crime of being born. (attr: St_Thomas_Aquinas))
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To: GeronL

You might try reading the article to its conclusion before posting. Just a thought.


25 posted on 01/21/2013 11:19:36 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: GeronL
This whole piece comes across as high level liberal propaganda... like a movie celebrating violence by showing it - wallowing in it - then doing a little wrap-up of standard morality at the end of the film. The real 'message' being enjoyment of violence.

In this piece the subliminal message is 'we're all sinners and God loves us so it's OK to be gay' because no one's perfect'. It's the old 'everyone's doing it so don't judge' crap that every liberal uses as their mantra.

But of course liberals do judge, and very harshly. They judge conservatives, traditional values, loving families, being honest, telling the truth... etc...

26 posted on 01/22/2013 6:00:04 AM PST by GOPJ ( Gang members breaking down YOUR door- daughter and wife screaming for help - Dems took YOUR gun....)
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To: rhema

Excellent article; thanks for posting...


27 posted on 01/22/2013 7:43:21 PM PST by mlizzy (If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic adoration, abortion would be ended. --Mother Teresa)
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