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Is It a Sin to Vote for Democrats?
The Peter Heck Show ^ | 10-29-12 | Peter Heck

Posted on 10/29/2012 9:31:19 PM PDT by ReformationFan

With the recent proclamation of a Green Bay bishop that Christians who vote for someone supporting the gay or abortion agenda is putting their soul in jeopardy, there’s been an increase in the amount of email in my inbox asking my take on whether it is a sin for Christians to be Democrats. I think a lot of people assume this is a difficult subject for me to address. I hate to disappoint them, but it’s not.

I recently read an article from a self-proclaimed “Christian Democrat” explaining why they would be voting for Obama, and to a larger degree, supporting the Democrat Party. I am intentionally not linking to the original article for a reason. The article was full of the very kind of “fine-sounding arguments” that Paul warns us in Colossians to be on guard against. Given the sorry state of Biblical Christianity in America, I know that several of these arguments could easily ensnare and trap a lot of confused Christians and I won’t willfully provide a potential stumbling block to any believer.

It should be an axiom for Christ followers that while our faith should inform our politics, our politics should never inform our faith. But this particular author, as is often the case with Christian Democrats, has made an a priori commitment to supporting the Democrats and then seeks to find faith-based reasons to justify it. But here’s the uncomfortable truth such individuals must confront: while it’s certainly true that not every Republican is worthy of our support as Christians, any individual who runs under a platform that justifies the legal slaughter of innocent life made in the image of God is an unacceptable choice. Period.

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1 posted on 10/29/2012 9:31:35 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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A sin? Probably not a sin.

But an incredibly stupid thing to do.


2 posted on 10/29/2012 9:33:55 PM PDT by MplsSteve (General Mills is pro-gay marriage! Boycott their products!)
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To: ReformationFan

It is in my house. Democrat majorities mean more dead unborn babies. That’s sinful.


3 posted on 10/29/2012 9:35:31 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: ReformationFan

Yep.


4 posted on 10/29/2012 9:35:31 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: ReformationFan

Part of the dimocrat platform is the support of
abortion — that’s baby killing,
euthanasia — that’s killing the elderly
same-sex marriage — not what the Bible asks between a man and a woman
contraception — that’s playing God and stopping the conception of a baby
embryonic stem-cell research — more baby killing

Now what is your answer?

I, personally cannot support these things that go against the teachings of Jesus Christ and the Church.


5 posted on 10/29/2012 9:37:59 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: ReformationFan

Yes....next question.


6 posted on 10/29/2012 9:38:24 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: ReformationFan

At this point, yes, pretty much think so.


7 posted on 10/29/2012 9:40:26 PM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: ReformationFan

As one FReeper’s tagline put it: “God is not a Republican, but Satan definitely is a Democrat.”


8 posted on 10/29/2012 9:44:00 PM PDT by thulldud (Is it "alter or abolish" time yet?)
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To: ReformationFan

You might go to hell if you vote for them!


9 posted on 10/29/2012 9:51:24 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: MplsSteve

This is not just in Green Bay.

You cannot vote for someone who supports abortion if you have a choice and still call yourself a Catholic. Regrettably, many people do that and call themselves Catholic anyway.


10 posted on 10/29/2012 9:55:42 PM PDT by Barnacle (Is treason a high crime or misdemeanor?)
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To: ReformationFan

Enthusiastically voting for the continuous blood sacrifice of tens of millions of defenseless children to Moloch is a sin? That’s crazy fundie talk.


11 posted on 10/29/2012 9:55:45 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: ReformationFan

“Render Unto Caesar” By Archbishop Charles Chaput

During the 2008 election cycle a Catholic legal scholar, Douglas Kmiec attempted to use the Archbishop’s book as a basis for supporting, then “candidate” Obama.

The Archbishop objected:
“Unfortunately, he either misunderstands or misuses my words, and he couldn’t be more mistaken…”

“I believe that Senator Obama, whatever his other talents, is the most committed ‘abortion-rights’ presidential candidate of either major party since the Roe v. Wade abortion decision in 1973,” he added.

“Despite what Kmiec suggests, the party platform Senator Obama runs on this year is not only aggressively ‘pro-choice;’ it has also removed any suggestion that killing an unborn child might be a regrettable thing.”

The prelate affirmed that the platform of the Democratic Party that emerged from its national convention in August “is clearly anti-life.”
“Kmiec argues that there are defensible motives to support Senator Obama,” continued Archbishop Chaput. “Speaking for myself, I do not know any proportionate reason that could outweigh more than 40 million unborn children killed by abortion and the many millions of women deeply wounded by the loss and regret abortion creates.”

“A well-formed Christian conscience does not permit one to vote for a political program or an individual law that contradicts the fundamental contents of faith and morals”


12 posted on 10/29/2012 9:56:59 PM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: ReformationFan

Voting for a Demoncrat is like losing your virginity to a rapist.


13 posted on 10/29/2012 9:58:05 PM PDT by Mark (Don't argue with my posts. I typed while under sniper fire.)
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To: ReformationFan

as a Christian, i believe it is a sin to vote against one’s own conscience.

i’m with madison:

“It is the duty of every man to render to the Creator such homage and such only as he believes to be acceptable to him. this duty is precedent, both in order of time and in degree of obligation, to the claims of the Civil Society.” (from Imprimus, Sept. 2012).


14 posted on 10/29/2012 9:58:53 PM PDT by dadfly
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To: G Larry

Kmiec is a CINO


15 posted on 10/29/2012 10:03:06 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: G Larry

Has Kmiec converted/reverted?


16 posted on 10/29/2012 10:04:29 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Too many CINOs for me to keep track of....sorry, I don’t know.


17 posted on 10/29/2012 10:05:42 PM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: Salvation

“Kmiec is a CINO”

A point made all too clear by AB Chaput’s rebuttal.


18 posted on 10/29/2012 10:06:52 PM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: jwalsh07
It is in my house. Democrat majorities mean more dead unborn babies. That’s sinful.

Sadly a Republican vote doesn't mean less dead babies.
Just look at the lip service they give the pro-life: They add a "no rape/incest exception" to the stated planks... and nominate someone who says "of course I support the rape/incest exception to banning abortions."

19 posted on 10/29/2012 10:08:18 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: ReformationFan; All

In most cases...and “gods in embryo” competing with THE GOD as a rival god...


20 posted on 10/29/2012 10:09:24 PM PDT by Colofornian ( >)
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To: ReformationFan
My opinion:

Of course it is a sin to vote for an enabler of killing babys.

I also believe it is a sin to vote for anyone in the party that rejected God, 3 times.

21 posted on 10/29/2012 10:09:56 PM PDT by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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To: MplsSteve
A sin? Probably not a sin. But an incredibly stupid thing to do.

I don't automatically vote Democrat or GOP. I look at the candidate and their positions.

In my mind, it is a political sin to just vote the party line.

22 posted on 10/29/2012 10:10:25 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: ReformationFan

Yes it is. It is willingly selling this nation down the road to hell.


23 posted on 10/29/2012 10:12:04 PM PDT by vpintheak (Occupy your Brain!)
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To: ReformationFan

Yes.

It should be a crime as well.


24 posted on 10/29/2012 10:16:30 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
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To: ReformationFan; DarthVader
Isaiah 5:20 -Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil.......

a genuine Christian, desiring to please and obey the Lord Jesus would not belong to or support an evil group that promotes things that are abominations to God such as abortion and homosexuality. end of story.

25 posted on 10/29/2012 10:17:27 PM PDT by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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To: ReformationFan

The concept of “sin” is not something I subscribe to. I would rather call it what it is. Treason.


26 posted on 10/29/2012 10:17:47 PM PDT by BigCinBigD (...Was that okay?)
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To: MplsSteve
"Probably not a sin. But an incredibly stupid thing to do."
Doing stupid things is sinful. "Love God with your whole heart, mind, and soul." The mind includes the intellect.

"It should be an axiom for Christ followers ..."
Christ followers don't need axioms. They need virtues.

Plenty of state House races here in CT where the DEM is more pro-family than the NARAL Republican candidate.

and races for the US House:
Roraback CT-5 R NARAL
Obsitnick CT-4 R NARAL
Tisei MA-5 R NARAL
Bass NH-2 R NARAL


and that guy in upstate NY .... R NARAL

those are 5 US House races where it is better if the DEM wins and then we come back with a center-right GOP candidate in '14.
27 posted on 10/29/2012 10:18:42 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (campaigning for local conservatives)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

YES !
party platform


28 posted on 10/29/2012 10:20:36 PM PDT by nevermorelenore
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To: ReformationFan

I think you if you vote Dem you are voting for more stand downs and more Americans killed.


29 posted on 10/29/2012 10:23:20 PM PDT by Big Horn (Rebuild the GOP to a conservative party)
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To: ReformationFan

If you understand democrats like I do, yes, I think it’s a sin. When you vote for a democrat you vote to keep minorities as slaves to the plantation of democrat rule. You give them little bits of goodies to keep them there, tell them it’s their right to receive goodies for nothing, keep them dependent on the state, and ensure they will blindly vote democrat every election. How is that good in any way? It robs them of their spirit, and self respect. and dooms them to a life of service to the plantation. It robs them of a sense of responsibility, and blinds them to the life that they could have otherwise. I hope that many of them are waking up to this, and can free themselves from the bonds of their democrat masters. Time will tell, but I don’t see how it could not be a sin to vote for that.


30 posted on 10/29/2012 10:33:13 PM PDT by lwoodham (I am Andrew Breitbart. Don't doubt me on this.)
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To: MplsSteve

A sin? Well, think about it. 1. Homosexuality is condemned in the Scriptures in several places, yet it is a veritable honor to the democRATS.
2. The heathen, and even reprobate Hebrews were excoriated by God, through the prophets, for sacrificing their children to various pagan gods, and we all know that abortion is a high holy sacrament to the ‘RATS.

I would hazard a guess that if an individual is casting their vote and lending support to the ‘RAT cause, it could be construed as “wishing them God speed”. I also believe that such a person is not “abiding in the doctrine of Christ,” who is 100% pro-life! They’re on very thin ice, to my mind.

2nd John 1:9 thru 11 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.


31 posted on 10/29/2012 10:39:42 PM PDT by Tucker39
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To: lwoodham

Wonderful post! Thank you.


32 posted on 10/29/2012 10:42:15 PM PDT by sofaman (An enemy generally says and believes what he wishes. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Salvation

Nope. Kmiec has reaffirmed his faith to his new messiah this year.


33 posted on 10/29/2012 10:52:57 PM PDT by paudio (4Bs: Big-bird, Binders, Bayonets, and... Bullshiter ! <= New 0bama's campaign slogan)
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To: MplsSteve

Sin is doing something outside of the Biblical LAW. Yes, abortion is the taking of a life and is SIN. The Bible describes Marriage and deciding marriage is something else is SIN. I also believe that drinking alcohol, which is a corruption of grape juice, is SIN....


34 posted on 10/29/2012 10:56:22 PM PDT by BillT (If you can not stand behind our military, you might as well stand in front of them!)
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To: ReformationFan

I remember I once voted for this total idiot democrat Perpich because he was police and the rino Arne Carlson was pro-abortion. I still don’t regret that vote.


35 posted on 10/29/2012 11:02:12 PM PDT by MNDude (OWS Movement RIP)
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To: ReformationFan

I remember I once voted for this total idiot democrat Perpich because he was police and the rino Arne Carlson was pro-abortion. I still don’t regret that vote.


36 posted on 10/29/2012 11:02:52 PM PDT by MNDude (OWS Movement RIP)
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To: jwalsh07

It is in my house. Democrat majorities mean more dead unborn babies. That’s sinful

From your house to mine~~~I feel the same way!


37 posted on 10/29/2012 11:12:03 PM PDT by Isabel2010
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To: ReformationFan

The good ol’ blue dogs are gone. Today’s Democrats are of Satan.


38 posted on 10/29/2012 11:15:41 PM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: ReformationFan

Really no one knows how the Almight will judge you, on judgement day.

Yet, one must weigh the costs carefully when it’s your soul that is in the balance.

He gave us his word to go by, and his Son who came and died spilling his innocent blood so we might be saved.

It’s not something to toss lightly off.

But I will say this, isn’t it interesting that party more and more becomes liberal with that book. Why would they make the issue so confusing? Why not just do as the book says, with no need for arguements to make it seem okay to walk outside the line?

Satan has a glib tongue.


39 posted on 10/29/2012 11:21:07 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: BillT

I also believe that drinking alcohol, which is a corruption of grape juice, is SIN
WADR, you can regard it as sin, but that view is not Biblical. Drunkenness is certainly sin, but not drinking alcohol per se. (This kind of stuff gets too close to Islam. Did Jesus turn water into “corrupted grape juice” at the wedding in Cana, then?)

For the record, the word “sin” is translated generally from Hebrew chatta’ah and Greek hamartios, both of which mean to either fall short of a standard or to break a standard (law). The word sinne from Middle English is synonymous with the modern word crime also.
40 posted on 10/30/2012 12:16:58 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: ReformationFan
Read Romans 1 and it names many of today's sins, and in the last couple of verses points out that if you approve of these sins, you have committed them.

We have had murder, adultery, sodomy, theft, lying, ect since the beginning, but it was always recognized as sin. Today, the Dem platform trumpets murder and sodomy as a " must have" today. No culture in modern history has ever done such. They even openly hate God in their Convention and "Christians" still vote for them. When you are lost, you are dead, and dead people cannot see or hear God.

41 posted on 10/30/2012 12:17:56 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: ReformationFan

The Democrats have become the communists of old.


42 posted on 10/30/2012 12:51:29 AM PDT by exnavy (The time is upon us, fish or cut bait, may God guide your heart.)
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To: ReformationFan

The Democratic Party of America platform is evil, plain for all to see, officially stated in so many ways. Yes, there are evil Republicans, but it is not the Republican party’s official, in your face, platform to support these evils and to force everyone to participate.

It is not surprising to see so many posts on this page support voting Democrat. It is still sad, though.


43 posted on 10/30/2012 1:38:05 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: Salvation; ReformationFan

Agree. It isn’t just abortion which is awful enough. It’s the many other things Democrats stand for. How can a Christian rationalize supporting the Democrats when a large majority want to remove the Christian God from their platform? And, yes, it is a sin to support them.


44 posted on 10/30/2012 2:17:58 AM PDT by HarleyD
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To: ReformationFan

Yes. It is a sin to vote for baby killers, or those who promote baby killing. Pure and simple. It’s been that way since early Christianity. Before Christianity, people killed their unwanted children at will. Christianity changed that. Most of the baby killers are Democrats. Yes, it is a sin to vote for them.


45 posted on 10/30/2012 3:33:29 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: ReformationFan

It might not be sinful to vote for a Democrat, but I don’t know any Democrats on the ballot today, whom I find any intent in God’s Plan for anybody to support. Ergo, voting for many Democrats on the ballot today would indeed be sinful.

Most Democratic positions today seem to fly in the face of Scripture. to wit...

Rom 13:14
(14) But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.


46 posted on 10/30/2012 3:55:13 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: exnavy

Actually, the Democratic platform is closer to classic fascism. Strong central government is allied with select big businesses who form monopolies enforced by that central government.

China is an example of modern day fascism simply because they had to swallow the Hong Kong pill and the Communist leaders’ wives and children discovered that they liked air conditioning, and that private jets taking them on vacation anywhere in the world at a moment’s whim is far more appealing than watching the rear end of two oxen pulling them in an unsprung rickshaw along a rutted dirt road.


47 posted on 10/30/2012 4:29:14 AM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: ReformationFan

Short answer: Yes.


48 posted on 10/30/2012 4:40:44 AM PDT by Rocky (Obama is pure evil.)
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To: tallyhoe

Your life on earth will be hell if they’re, elected.


49 posted on 10/30/2012 4:49:11 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: Rocky

Not just yes, but Hell yes.


50 posted on 10/30/2012 4:57:49 AM PDT by billhilly
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