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Police: Woodburn priest chased boy down street after abuse [And it continues]
Oregonlive ^ | 8/16/2012 | Maxine Bernstein

Posted on 08/16/2012 7:46:17 PM PDT by RnMomof7

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To: Salvation

Are you using this news worthy story to tell the world that all of Christianity is perverted and twisted?

If you are a Christian, then why not just let the newsworthy story stand on it’s own, it is a strange and sad case.

You don’t need to turn this into a collection of all of the crimes of Christianity, with links and neon lettering.


21 posted on 08/16/2012 8:58:39 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: Salvation
This community is in my county. The details still aren't all out.

What is your gut feeling, do you think it might turn out to be totally innocent, and a mistake of some sort?

22 posted on 08/16/2012 9:08:04 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: Salvation

Are you REALLY making excuses for this priest? Are you REALLY try to spread the blame around for his sin and sinfulness? If you are, I think you’d lost a lot of us.


23 posted on 08/16/2012 9:25:21 PM PDT by righttackle44 (I may not be much, but I raised a United States Marine.)
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To: righttackle44

**Are you REALLY making excuses for this priest? Are you REALLY try to spread the blame around for his sin and sinfulness? If you are, I think you’d lost a lot of us.**

Not trying to make excuses. Just pointing out that the truth of the matter is that there is a lot more sexual abuse in schools and orther denominations.

Is posting only part of the truth OK with you? Just post about the Catholic priests/ What about all the other nonsense that goes on?


24 posted on 08/16/2012 9:30:04 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation
there is a lot more sexual abuse in schools and orther denominations.

Which denomination, you haven't named one have you?

25 posted on 08/16/2012 9:32:47 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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How sad, that this church... has NOT DONE ENOUGH to stop this filth... This should not be happening by now.... obviously this priest is a degenerated/Criminal who probably has done this more than ONCE, and I will bet you... that some one IN THE CHURCH knew what was going on... and as usual, looked the other way. That seems to me the modus operandi of the church in these matters, except of course when they are in full PR mode... because they HAVE TO PRETEND they care and do the right thing... but I do not believe them, it is all for show.

I know some people will not like my comments and will jump to defendthe church (how unfair of me /s)... but I know, deep in my heart, there is a lot of CORRUPTION still in that church, still hidden under the surface.

Their SILENCE in certain "cultural" issues... tells clearly where they really belong.

26 posted on 08/16/2012 9:34:25 PM PDT by ElPatriota (The SILENCE of the Catholic Church in protecting our culture from perversion is ** DEAFENING **)
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To: Salvation
Is posting only part of the truth OK with you? Just post about the Catholic priests/ What about all the other nonsense that goes on?

Besides the immense amount of abuse that has happened in the Catholic Church, the Church has a sordid history of covering up and protecting priests so that they can continue to abuse for decades. So there's that.

There's also the fact that the Catholic Church holds itself up as a paragon of morality and truth, and expends great effort in having answers for everything that do not admit alternate interpretations. For such an institution to be guilty of sexually victimizing literally thousands of children, allows the Church to receive back from millions of people a focus for the rage the Church has created in them by inflicting its arrogance upon them.

You see, millions of people feel that if the Church actually deserved its claims of holiness, such abuse would simply never happen within its ranks, and if it did, it would be treated with the utmost honesty and protection for the victims. Instead, the Church wants it both ways - to be the mandated for all spiritual practices and decisions for the entirety of the human race, and be allowed to escape with a shrug about being just as human as anyone else when it is found to have committed, and protected, crimes of atrocity.

The great unwashed see that as profound hypocrisy.

That the Church then responds by spinning and minimizing its abuse statistics and denying all arrogance in the face of this uproar doesn't exactly help things get any better.

27 posted on 08/16/2012 9:44:03 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: ansel12
Check it out yourself.



28 posted on 08/16/2012 9:44:41 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Vermont Lt
And then the kid should get every nickel that church has, and ever will have.

Really? The church -- and by that I mean the parish -- didn't ordain the priest and didn't select him to serve there; the bishop does that. Destroying the parish because they were unlucky enough to be saddled with a pervert pastor is a bit like shooting a sick person to kill the germs.

Do you favor shutting down and selling off public schools when a senior faculty member is discovered molesting students, or do you think we should remove (and prosecute, if possible) the guilty person and try to hire someone decent?

The people of this parish didn't molest anyone. They deserve our prayers, not our vows of revenge, financial or otherwise. Save that for the perp.

29 posted on 08/16/2012 9:50:25 PM PDT by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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To: Salvation

Why is this even in the Religion forum?


30 posted on 08/16/2012 9:56:23 PM PDT by kanawa
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To: Salvation
You don't need to put everything in neon lights.

What I asked was, which denomination? This thread is about the Catholic denomination, which ones do you want us to look at in regards to this article.

Which denomination has “a lot more sexual abuse”. is it the Methodists, The Apostolic Faith Mission, the Spiritual Israel Church and Its Army, the Presbyterians, or what?

31 posted on 08/16/2012 10:00:37 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: kanawa
"Why is this even in the Religion forum?"

So the effect of sacramental grace obtained from ordination into the "one true" church can be examined.

32 posted on 08/16/2012 10:09:51 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: RnMomof7

The Church seems to have alot of these types of “problems”.


33 posted on 08/16/2012 10:10:45 PM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2011)
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To: Talisker
You want to talk "hypocrisy"? Let's talk about a culture that murders a million and a half kids every year and calls it a "constitutional right". That's child abuse on an unimaginable scale.

Such a society has no moral standing to point any fingers at anyone else and then complain about hypocrisy. God will judge us more severely than the Nazis if we don't repent.

34 posted on 08/16/2012 10:10:57 PM PDT by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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To: Talisker

Do you have the same feelings about the immense amount of abuse that occurs in public education and the indifference of property tax payers who blindly support same?


36 posted on 08/16/2012 10:22:44 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: spunkets
"So the effect of sacramental grace obtained from ordination into the "one true" church can be examined."

Well, it's taken 2,000 years but it looks like have finally found someone without sin who is qualified to cast the first stone. Be careful you don't out your eye out throwing at the whole Church.

Peace be with you

37 posted on 08/16/2012 10:23:21 PM PDT by Natural Law (Jesus did not leave us a Bible, He left us a Church.)
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To: Dallas59

That’s a conclusion reached by the obtuse.


38 posted on 08/16/2012 10:24:32 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: RnMomof7
"Ohhh and a local case...."

Show me where in Scripture it says schadenfreude is a Fruit of the Holy Spirit.

Peace be with you

39 posted on 08/16/2012 10:28:19 PM PDT by Natural Law (Jesus did not leave us a Bible, He left us a Church.)
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Re: "So the effect of sacramental grace obtained from ordination into the "one true" church can be examined."

"Well, it's taken 2,000 years but it looks like have finally found someone without sin who is qualified to cast the first stone."

I'll keep my stones. Care to comment on why the special sacremental grace had no effect?

40 posted on 08/16/2012 10:36:46 PM PDT by spunkets
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