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The saint who opposed Luther
Catholic Herald ^ | August 7, 2012

Posted on 08/07/2012 2:39:20 PM PDT by NYer

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St Cajetan (1480-1547) was, like his contemporary Martin Luther, deeply concerned by the worldliness and decadence he saw among the clergy. He, however, sought to reform the Church from within, founding the Order of the Theatines.

This was the first congregation of regular clergy. Its aims were to preach sound doctrine, to tend the poor and the sick, to restore frequent use of the sacraments and to inspire better priestly conduct.

Born into the nobility of Vicenza as Gaetano dei Conti di Tiene, Cajetan lost his father at two. His mother brought him up to be both studious and devout.

After becoming a doctor in civil and canon law at Padua in 1504, he was protonotary to Pope Julius II in Rome from 1506 to 1513. Ordained in 1516, he returned to Vicenza two years later.

In Rome he had been associated with a group of zealous clergy styling themselves the Oratory of Divine Love. Back in Vicenza, he entered the Oratory of St Jerome and founded a hospital for incurables.

“In the Oratory,” he said, “we try to serve God by worship; in our hospital we may say that we actually find Him.” He went on to create hospitals in Verona and Venice.

Distressed by what he saw of the clergy, Cajetan returned to Rome in 1523 to confer with his friends in the Oratory of Divine Love. These included Pietro Carafa, Bishop of Chieti, a fiercely intransigent prelate who would be elected Pope Paul IV in 1555. With Carafa, Cajetan established in 1524 a new order, naming them the Theatines, after the Latin name for Chieti (Theate Marricinorum). There was particular emphasis on poverty and on thorough biblical training.

Carafa became the first superior-general, though Cajetan filled that office from 1530 to 1533. Perhaps due to Carafa’s uncompromising nature, the order did not immediately flourish. Moreover, it had to flee to Venice when the Emperor Charles V sacked Rome in 1527.

After 1533 Carafa sent Cajetan first to Verona, and then to Naples, where the Theatines gradually became respected for their stand against the city’s corruption and indifference to the poor. Cajetan established pawnshops which were run purely for the benefit of their users.

Among the Theatines at Naples from 1547 was the Englishman Thomas Goldwell, who had fled from Henry VIII’s regime. In 1555, under Queen Mary, he was appointed Bishop of Asaph, before once again being obliged to leave England under Queen Elizabeth. From 1561 Goldwell was briefly superior-general at Naples. He would live to be the last survivor of Mary’s bishops.

For 250 years the Theatines flourished in western Europe, as well as conducting foreign missions. In the 19th century, however, they fell into decline. In 2005 they numbered only some 200 religious, mainly in Spain and South America.



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1 posted on 08/07/2012 2:39:23 PM PDT by NYer
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 08/07/2012 2:40:01 PM PDT by NYer (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers? - St. Augustine)
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To: NYer

If he was much of a “saint”, he would aided Luther in exposing the hypocrisy and errors not oppose him.


3 posted on 08/07/2012 2:50:57 PM PDT by BipolarBob
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To: NYer
sought to reform the Church from within,

So did Luther.

4 posted on 08/07/2012 3:06:32 PM PDT by DManA
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To: BipolarBob

Cajetan was a reformer. He just wasn’t a heretic or schismatic. Luther was.


5 posted on 08/07/2012 3:12:07 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: DManA

You wrote:

“So did Luther.”

Not really. If he had sought that to any great extent you would think he would have stuck with it for a while. Ultimately Luther was interested in pushing his own agenda - which he confused with God’s.


6 posted on 08/07/2012 3:14:11 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998

Yea, really.


7 posted on 08/07/2012 3:18:32 PM PDT by DManA
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To: vladimir998

He was only a heretic to the papacy. He was faithful to Christ.


8 posted on 08/07/2012 3:34:44 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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St Cajetan (1480-1547) was, like his contemporary Martin Luther, deeply concerned by the worldliness and decadence he saw among the clergy. He, however, sought to reform the Church from within, founding the Order of the Theatines.

Thus begins the propaganda, and ends all mention of Luther. Nothing about anyone "opposing Luther"....

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9 posted on 08/07/2012 3:37:23 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2898271/posts?page=119#119)
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To: vladimir998
Please explain how Luther was a heretic and schismatic. Also please define the term "schismatic" while you're at it. :)

(Why do I ask? Let's just say that I'm just asking.)

Thanks in advance.

10 posted on 08/07/2012 3:41:07 PM PDT by OKSooner (Never take a "known safety risk" shooting with you even if he is an ordained minister.)
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To: vladimir998

Luther didn’t leave the Church prior to being excommunicated. I think that’s ‘sticking with it’ quite long enough. There’s no evidence that had any intention of splitting the church.


11 posted on 08/07/2012 3:43:34 PM PDT by Blackyce (President Jacques Chirac: "As far as I'm concerned, war always means failure.")
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To: NYer
Luther exposed the avarice and corruption of the old RCC and set in motion the Protestant reformation which broke the heretical monopoly of the Vatican to produce the most successful Christian nations on earth.
12 posted on 08/07/2012 3:44:49 PM PDT by Happy Rain ("11/10 was the biopsy 11/12 we remove the malignancy.")
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To: NYer
Impressive enough, but even more if he had been known as "The Saint who opposed the Inquisition of Heritics.

Seems to me there is a sordid historical period sometime back then when the Roman "Church" seemed hell bent on torturing those who didn't see eye to eye.....

Mind you not picking a fight here but just curious how this Saint responded to his contemporaries and their view of those heretics?

13 posted on 08/07/2012 3:49:36 PM PDT by gettinolder (Smashed lips save ships.)
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To: DesertRhino

You wrote:

“He was only a heretic to the papacy.”

No, he was a heretic to all orthodox Christians.

“He was faithful to Christ.”

Only the Christ of his own making.


14 posted on 08/07/2012 3:58:58 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: NYer

The article fails to mention that Luther first tried to reform from within as well. Leaving is all that’s left to do.


15 posted on 08/07/2012 3:59:58 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: OKSooner

You wrote:

“Please explain how Luther was a heretic and schismatic.”

1) He personally embraced heretical doctrines and schism.
2) He fostered belief and acceptance in heretical doctrines and schism.

“Also please define the term “schismatic” while you’re at it.”

No. Look it up. If you are a product of government schools and do not know basic vocabulary, then you are not ready for this conversation in any case.

“(Why do I ask? Let’s just say that I’m just asking.)”

I don’t care why you ask. Your motive and your question do not matter to me.

“Thanks in advance.”

Your thanks is not necessary.


16 posted on 08/07/2012 4:04:09 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: Blackyce

You wrote:

“Luther didn’t leave the Church prior to being excommunicated.”

Actually Luther had left orthodox practice and belief years before 1517.

“I think that’s ‘sticking with it’ quite long enough.”

Nope.

“There’s no evidence that had any intention of splitting the church.”

Except that he did it. He certainly did not try to avoid it now did he?


17 posted on 08/07/2012 4:06:40 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998
He personally embraced heretical doctrines and schism.

That is called repetition rather than an answer.

18 posted on 08/07/2012 4:17:32 PM PDT by what's up
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To: DManA

Sorry, but Luther went outside the church to try to reform it.


19 posted on 08/07/2012 4:19:39 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NYer

It is hard to take this rant seriously, when he misidentifies the person who opposed Luther, Thomas Cajetan, with St. Cajetan, who founded the Theatines. Of course, the author does not seem to understand history or theology.


20 posted on 08/07/2012 4:21:39 PM PDT by MacombBob
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