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Melinda Gates: Poster billionaire for how a rotten Catholic education...
The Catholic World Report ^ | 8 May 2012 | Carl E. Olson

Posted on 05/08/2012 7:14:12 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham

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To: A.A. Cunningham

“You’ve personally met all Catholic women?

I’ve met enough to know that for you or anyone else to call the ones I have met not Catholic is simply your ignorant opinion.


21 posted on 05/08/2012 10:04:38 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: OriginalChristian

“My wife and I NEVER have. Nice to meet you.”

Good for you, now go actually read the Bible and learn about not casting stones.

Unless you and your wife stopped having sex then without contraception you’d have several dozen kids as would all Catholics. They don’t have dozens of kids, so I bet a bunch of Catholics use contraception.


22 posted on 05/08/2012 10:07:46 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: CodeToad
No, it's not that 99.9% of Catholics are bad.

The number is 100%.

That's what we mean when we say, right out loud where others can hear us,

"I have gravely sinned,
In my thoughts and in my words,
in what I have done, and in what I have failed to do,
THrough my fault, through my fault,
Through my most grievous fault."

We have all fallen short of moral good; that only heightens the need for repentance.

Just as some of the most effective and convincing people in the prolife movement are post-abortive women, some of the most convincing people in the the --- call it Sexual Restoration --- movement are post-contraceptive women. We make up the growing cadre who used the barriers, the endocrine disruptors, the jellies & jams, foams and sprays, the coils and patches, implantables and injectables, realized what a crock it all is, and finally said "Goodbye to All That."

The trouble with Melinda Gates and many like her, is not that she is morally depraved (not knowingly), but that she is --- as yet --- so ignorant.

She could have gotten a clue early on, had she read "Humanae Vitae" 45 years ago --- and realized that the whole 2,000 year Christian consensus against contraception, sterilization and abortion is based on moral, psychological, and social realism.

But even without the advantage of papal teaching, it would be wonderful if she would do some serious research about the Sexual Revolution and find out what the negatives are of contraception. Why? Because contraception is the necessary and sufficient cause, the #1 enabling technology and ideology of the Sexual Revolution.

And I mean soul-destroying, marriage-destroying and civilization-destroying negatives. There are nations that will nor survive it.

23 posted on 05/08/2012 12:38:13 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (What does the Lord require of you but to act justly, to love tenderly, to walk humbly with your God.)
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To: circlecity
So you're basically in opposition to teaching and promoting contraception in countries with horrendous poverty and over population, right?

I think you missed the key sentence in the article:

contraception will be the primary goal of their foundation, with plans to revolutionize it globally.

24 posted on 05/08/2012 12:47:55 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (My 6 pack abs are now a full keg......)
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To: Hot Tabasco
"I think you missed the key sentence in the article:"

I missed nothing.

25 posted on 05/08/2012 1:26:25 PM PDT by circlecity
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To: circlecity
I missed nothing.

Then you need to answer my question, here it is again:

So you're basically in opposition to teaching and promoting contraception in countries with horrendous poverty and over population, right?

26 posted on 05/08/2012 1:54:23 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (My 6 pack abs are now a full keg......)
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To: CodeToad

With all due respect, I’m not casting stones. You made the broad generalization at first, I answered truthfully, and I’m not alone. The fact that you’re somehow offended is not my problem. There are sanctioned ways to avoid pregnancy within a marriage without using artificial contraception.


27 posted on 05/08/2012 2:34:00 PM PDT by OriginalChristian (The end of America, as founded, began when the first Career Politician was elected...)
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To: Hot Tabasco
So you're basically in opposition to teaching and promoting contraception in countries with horrendous poverty and over population, right?

There's no such thing as "overpopulation" - one of the world's most densely populated countries is prosperous Japan. In a market-based economy, people can produce more than they consume, so greater population is no drain on net resources.

28 posted on 05/08/2012 2:49:54 PM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies
In a market-based economy, people can produce more than they consume, so greater population is no drain on net resources.

We're not talking about economies, we're talking about "over population" and encouraging the use of contraceptives........You'll be hard pressed to explain that over population doesn't exist in India. I suppose if there's enough garbage left to be found, starvation isn't an issue either.......


29 posted on 05/08/2012 3:09:05 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (My 6 pack abs are now a full keg......)
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To: Hot Tabasco
"So you're basically in opposition to teaching and promoting contraception in countries with horrendous poverty and over population, right?"

Absolutely. Instead of ignorant feel-good brian dead liberal solutions like contraception you may try teaching them Christianity, farming, carpentry, animal husbandtry and other useful trades to lift them out of that poverty and the issue of overpopulation will disappear. Contraception has never accomplished anything in Africa despite at least 40 years of trying.

30 posted on 05/08/2012 3:15:38 PM PDT by circlecity
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To: Hot Tabasco
What I see in those pictures is lots of LIFE - created by God. Future souls in Heaven hopefully. Look past the garbage and look at the people, real souls here on Earth. A picture will not show what is in their hearts. They may be poor, but they may also be very content. You do not know and either do I what is in their hearts - only God knows.

Birth prevention is not the answer to individual, community, national or world problems because to use something evil to correct a situation - real or anticipated - is not the right answer to any problem. No amount of arguing, excusing or rationalizing can ever justify the deliberate violation of divine and natural laws.

31 posted on 05/08/2012 5:56:53 PM PDT by Gerish (Feed your faith and your doubts will starve to death.)
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32 posted on 05/08/2012 6:19:36 PM PDT by narses
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To: Dilbert San Diego
We changed the culture so that it’s okay to have sex anytime.

We also made it difficult/impossible/untenable for the female to say "no". She is accused of "holding out", being a "tease" being "figid, etc., etc. "If you really loved me, you'd do it." Then, once they get on BC, they turn the tables on the male. Eventually the BC fails and they "need" an abortion. It goes round and round and younger and younger. Vicious cycle.

33 posted on 05/08/2012 6:45:57 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: CodeToad

Catholic women using contraception are CINO’s catholic in name only. If they think they are anything else they are mistaken and are risking losing heaven. Every single one of them needs a serious wake up call from the Lord God Almighty Himself, because at this point that is what it will take to get through their denial. BTW you have officially met a Catholic woman not using contraception. All it takes is faith in God. Been married 18 years. I have one child here on earth and 3 in heaven. I had to come to terms with the fact that God is in control cuz I sure would have loved to have all 4 of my kids here with me. Birth control is a delusion.


34 posted on 05/08/2012 7:08:09 PM PDT by UnRuley1
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To: Gerish
"What I see in those pictures is lots of LIFE - created by God."

God didn't create any of the life in those pics; their parents did.

35 posted on 05/08/2012 7:29:33 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: Hot Tabasco; Gerish; Mrs. Don-o; Dr. Sivana; JustSayNoToNannies; Salvation
Hot Tabasco:

Each and every person in your pictures is a precious and unique child of God. Each was created by God for His purposes. Not one of them has an obligation not to live so as to comfort you.

Mother Teresa spent her life working among such people and posed the question: "How can there be too many babies? That is like saying that there are too many flowers."

Perhaps you are jealous of folks with so many beautiful children?

Any "Catholic" you know who uses contraception to prevent conception of babies is self-excommunicated (latae sententiae) by unrepentant mortal sin: not because I say so but because the Teaching Magisterium of the Church and Canon Law say so. Any "Catholic" who imagines otherwise is a victim of poor catechesis but in grave sin nonetheless.

I am guessing from your posts that you are not Catholic. You don't have to be Catholic to understand Catholic doctrine. OTOH being non-Catholic is no guarantee that you understand Catholic doctrine either.

Melinda Gates is no more of a Catholic than was Ted Kennedy, than is Victoria Kennedy, Anthony or Mario Cuomo, Tom Daschle, Susan Collins, Rosa DeLauro, Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden, John (Did you know he served in Vietnam? But for which side?) Kerry, Patrick Leahy, the late Margaret Higgins Sanger (baptized at 13 at her own request at White Plains, NY, and left the Church one year later), Christopher Dodd, Pat Quinn, Dannell Malloy, Kirsten Gillibrand, Kathleen Gilligan Sebelius, Barbara Mikulski, Robert Menendez, Patty Murray, etc., just to name a few.

36 posted on 05/08/2012 10:02:23 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society. Broil 'em now!!!)
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To: Lorianne
G. K. has a question for Melinda:

Chesterton on birth control/population control:

In 1925 Chesterton wrote an introduction to Charles Dickens’ A Christmas Carol in which he said that “The answer to anyone who talks about the surplus population is to ask him, whether he is part of the surplus population; or if not, how he knows he is not.”


37 posted on 05/08/2012 10:11:10 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: battlecry

Sounds like the same outfit that put a full page ad in the New York Slimes back in February.

What’s their next target? LOL!


38 posted on 05/08/2012 10:13:03 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Night Hides Not

The Bishops do get it.

Biden is only a CINO. He will have to answer for his sins since he has self-excommunicated Joe from the Catholic Church.


39 posted on 05/08/2012 10:15:19 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: CodeToad

You know if you were saying that about Jewish women or Muslim women or Mexican women all in one bunch, you would be accused of discrimiunation and anti-semitism.

I guess we will settle for Catholic Bashing from you. Am I reading you right?


40 posted on 05/08/2012 10:17:18 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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