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To: JustSayNoToNannies
In a market-based economy, people can produce more than they consume, so greater population is no drain on net resources.

We're not talking about economies, we're talking about "over population" and encouraging the use of contraceptives........You'll be hard pressed to explain that over population doesn't exist in India. I suppose if there's enough garbage left to be found, starvation isn't an issue either.......


29 posted on 05/08/2012 3:09:05 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (My 6 pack abs are now a full keg......)
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To: Hot Tabasco
What I see in those pictures is lots of LIFE - created by God. Future souls in Heaven hopefully. Look past the garbage and look at the people, real souls here on Earth. A picture will not show what is in their hearts. They may be poor, but they may also be very content. You do not know and either do I what is in their hearts - only God knows.

Birth prevention is not the answer to individual, community, national or world problems because to use something evil to correct a situation - real or anticipated - is not the right answer to any problem. No amount of arguing, excusing or rationalizing can ever justify the deliberate violation of divine and natural laws.

31 posted on 05/08/2012 5:56:53 PM PDT by Gerish (Feed your faith and your doubts will starve to death.)
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To: Hot Tabasco; Gerish; Mrs. Don-o; Dr. Sivana; JustSayNoToNannies; Salvation
Hot Tabasco:

Each and every person in your pictures is a precious and unique child of God. Each was created by God for His purposes. Not one of them has an obligation not to live so as to comfort you.

Mother Teresa spent her life working among such people and posed the question: "How can there be too many babies? That is like saying that there are too many flowers."

Perhaps you are jealous of folks with so many beautiful children?

Any "Catholic" you know who uses contraception to prevent conception of babies is self-excommunicated (latae sententiae) by unrepentant mortal sin: not because I say so but because the Teaching Magisterium of the Church and Canon Law say so. Any "Catholic" who imagines otherwise is a victim of poor catechesis but in grave sin nonetheless.

I am guessing from your posts that you are not Catholic. You don't have to be Catholic to understand Catholic doctrine. OTOH being non-Catholic is no guarantee that you understand Catholic doctrine either.

Melinda Gates is no more of a Catholic than was Ted Kennedy, than is Victoria Kennedy, Anthony or Mario Cuomo, Tom Daschle, Susan Collins, Rosa DeLauro, Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden, John (Did you know he served in Vietnam? But for which side?) Kerry, Patrick Leahy, the late Margaret Higgins Sanger (baptized at 13 at her own request at White Plains, NY, and left the Church one year later), Christopher Dodd, Pat Quinn, Dannell Malloy, Kirsten Gillibrand, Kathleen Gilligan Sebelius, Barbara Mikulski, Robert Menendez, Patty Murray, etc., just to name a few.

36 posted on 05/08/2012 10:02:23 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society. Broil 'em now!!!)
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To: Hot Tabasco
You're talking about killing human lives with contraception, aren't you?

Please read some of this information to get your facts straight.

Melinda Gates: I’m Catholic and contraception is not controversial
Catholics Urged to Imitate St. Thomas More in Contraception Battle
Essays for Lent: Contraception

The Differences the Pill has Made
Pastors Preach Against Contraception From Pulpit
Catholics and Contraception: Boston, 1965
Abortion, Contraception and the Church Fathers (Catholic teaching unchanged for 2000 yrs)
Contraception and Catholicism (What the Roman Catholic Church really teaches)
6 Reasons Why Contraception is Sinful and Contrary to God's Will
Time To Admit It: The Church Has Always Been Right On Birth Control
Paul VI: “danger of this power passing into the hands of those public authorities ...”
The Truth about The Church's Teaching about Contraception.
Letter from Archbishop John G. Vlazny on the matter of freedom of conscience and decisions by HHS

Bishop Olmsted's Letter to Catholics [Catholic Caucus]
Liberty for the Amish & Quakers but not Catholics. . .
Contraception mandate prompts Peoria bishop to instate St. Michael Prayer (Catholic Caucus)
Phoenix bishop (Olmstead): defy feds on birth control
A letter from Archbishop Dennis M. Schnurr concerning HHS edict
Speak honestly: abortion is ‘the killing of tiny human beings in the womb’ – Denver bishop
Bishop [Daniel Jenky] Blasts Secularist Intolerance, Calls For ‘Assertive Action’ to Defend Church
(Pittsburgh Bishop Zubik comments:) HHS delays rule on contraceptive coverage
Dolan: Natural law, not religious preference, dictates all life sacred
Religious leaders blast HHS over contraception mandate

Mandated Contraception, Sterilization: Caesar Demands Church Violate Conscience
OBAMA’S CONTEMPT FOR RELIGIOUS LIBERTY (mandates coverage of sterilization & contraception)
Obama Admin Decides to Require Religious Institutions to Cover Free Contraception
Jews and Evangelicals stand with Church against contraception mandate
Obama Supporters Worried He May Grant Contraception Exemptions to Catholic Hospitals
Catholic college sues HHS over contraception mandate
Children of the Reformation: A Short & Surprising History of Protestantism & Contraception
Implications of Obama Admin move to force Cath hospitals to provide contraception and sterilizations
Catholic doctors’ group launches petition against contraception mandate
Contraception mandate tramples religious freedom, US bishops say

Planned Parenthood Cuts Contraception, Not Abortion After De-Funding
Contraception underlying cause of breakdown of family, sexual morality, says expert
Contraception: The Reason Catholics Have Abandoned Confession
U.S. Bishops’ Publication Urges Priests to Preach on Contraception, Sterilization, IVF
Contraception: The Bitter Pill
Catholic Bishops Warn of ‘Civil Disobedience’ Over Contraceptives [Philippines]
Relationships Market After 50 Years of The Pill
Contraception: The Bacteria Devouring America’s Soul
Christians examine morality of birth control [Ecumenical/Orthodox Presbyterian]
The Cost of Contraception: Women's Health - Response to CNN

The Connection between Contraception and Abortion
Baby Bust: The Demographics of Global Depression
The Surest Sign of a Decadent Culture
Protestants and Birth Control
The Protest of a Protestant Minister Against Birth Control
Contraception: Why Not?
The Bible & Birth Control
Our Gravest Moral Responsibility: Convert the Contraception Mentality
Contraception and Conversion
Evangelical Leaders are Ok with Contraception

The pill and 50 years of misery [the pill kills!]
The dawn of demonic deception [the birth control pill]
Researcher finds strong link between contraception and HIV
The Birth-Control Riddle
Social Science Proves Humanae Vitae
"Contraception Is Wrong. Now Here's How You Use It . . ."
Suit claims birth control warning not enough
Natural and Unnatural (father of 5 shocks mother of 1)
Planned Parenthood Uses Teens to Distribute Injectable Birth Control in Rural Ecuador
Study: Low-Dose Birth Control Pills Decrease Bone Density in Young Women
Spanish drug agency confirms grave effects of morning-after pill

Another Woman Dies of Hormonal Contraceptive in Switzerland
Study Finds Half of Women on "Birth Control Shot" Suffer Bone Problems
The Re-Birth of Population Control: Human Life Seen as a Carbon roblem
Radio Replies First Volume - Birth Control
Abortion, birth control pill linked to breast cancer, surgeon says
God before contraception (Australia)
Fighting the 'contraceptive mentality'
Birth control pill creator regrets population decline
Polluted Water, Polluted Culture (one more consequence from contraception)
Abortifacients -- The Other Forbidden Grief

NFP and Contraception: What’s the Difference?
Wisconsin requiring Catholic institutions to provide contraceptives coverage
Contraception: The history you may have missed and would rather not know
Why does Pope Benedict talk about Humanae vitae in the new encyclical? [Catholic Caucus]
New Evangelical Documentary Exposes Abortifacient Qualities of the Birth Control Pill, Promotes NFP
In Quiverfull Movement, Birth Control Is Shunned
Press in a Dither Again over Pope’s Reaffirmation of Catholic Teaching
How Birth Control Changed America for the Worst
If You Are Contracepting, You Are Part of A Very Big Problem

Vatican and Italian government criticize sale of RU 486 in Italy
New Condom Ads Target Catholics, Latinos
St. Padre Pio, Humanae Vitae, and Mandatory Abortion
Responsible Parenthood in a Birth Control Culture, Part Two [Open]
Responsible Parenthood in a Birth Control Culture, Part One [Open]
Humanae Vitae and True Sexual Freedom — Part 6 of 6 [Open]
Contraception v. Natural Family Planning — Part 5 of 6 [Open]
Sex Speaks: True and False Prophets — Part 4 of 6 [Open]
Contraception and the Language of the Body — Part 3 of 6 [Open]
Does Contraception Foster Love? — Part 2 of 6 [Open]

Contraception and Cultural Chaos — Part 1 of 6 [Open]
Priests still suffering from effects of Humanae Vitae dissenters, Vatican cardinal says (Must read!)
"Provoking reflection" (Contrasting views on Humanae Vitae)
Humanae Vitae The Year of the Peirasmòs - 1968
Catholics to Pope: Lift the Birth Control Ban
[OPEN] The Vindication of Humanae Vitae
Catholic Clergy Challenge Colleagues to Reacquaint Themselves and Their People with Humanae Vitae
White House proposes wide "conscience clause" on abortion, contraception
THE EX CATHEDRA STATUS OF THE ENCYCLICAL "HUMANAE VITAE" [Catholic Caucus]
“A degrading poison that withers life”

Australia Study: 70 Percent of Women Seeking Abortions Used Contraception
[Fr. Thomas Euteneuer] In Persona Christi: The Priest and Contraception
A Challenging Truth, Part Two: The Day the Birth Control Died
A Challenging Truth, Part One: How Birth Control Works
Ten Challenges for the Pro-Life Movement in 2008
The concept of the "intrinsically evil"
Pope Tells Pharmacists Not to Dispense Drugs With 'Immoral urposes'
Massive Study Finds the Pill Significantly Increases Cancer Risk if Used more than Eight Years
Birth Control Pill Creates Blood Clot Causing Death of Irish Woman
Seminarians Bring Church’s Teaching on Contraception, Sexuality to YouTube

Abortion and Contraception: Old Lies
History of Catholic teaching on Contraception
Pope: Legislation "Supporting Contraception and Abortion is Threatening the Future of Peoples"
Contraception: Why It's Wrong
On Fox News Fearless HLI Priest Takes on Sean Hannity (may be indebted for saving his soul)
VIDEO - SEAN HANNITY vs REV. THOMAS EUTENEUER (must see!)
The Early Church Fathers on Contraception - Catholic/Orthodox Caucus
Pope on divine love vs. erotic love
Conjugal Love and Procreation: God's Design
Being fruitful [Evangelicals and contraception]

41 posted on 05/08/2012 10:21:11 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Hot Tabasco
[TEXT OMITTED BY HOT TABASCO: one of the world's most densely populated countries is prosperous Japan.] In a market-based economy, people can produce more than they consume, so greater population is no drain on net resources.

We're not talking about economies, we're talking about "over population" and encouraging the use of contraceptives........You'll be hard pressed to explain that over population doesn't exist in India.

Is the crowded street scene supposed to support your claim? Is even more crowded Japan "overpopulated"?

I suppose if there's enough garbage left to be found, starvation isn't an issue either.......

Once we're talking about starvation, we are talking about economies, contrary to your claim.

46 posted on 05/09/2012 11:17:45 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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