Posted on 04/27/2012 2:42:55 PM PDT by NYer
What the NOW gang is to America, the LCWR is to the RC Church.
All bad news.
Both you and the author have confused the term sister and nun. Nuns are cloistered, sisters are not. Big difference between the two.
Crosier envy?
I think Paul VI’s stance against artificial contraception was the defining moment of his papacy, and had no parallel under JP II. While JP II did give us Cardinal Ratzinger, in the US Church the Cardinal was the scapegoat for the continued conservatism of the Church; JP II was slow to enforce orthodoxy in the US bishops and it was left to Ratzinger to do so.
Reform comes slowly. Consider how long it took for the Council of Trent to meet after the popes overcame their antipathy to councils and agreed to call one. But the situation in the United States was more like that in England when Queen Mary to the throne. Under King Edward, the Protestant party led by Cranmer has instituted radical reforms which went against the grain of the people who were still largely Catholic in sentiment. This is why the Queen , led by her kinsman Cardinal Pole, dared to resume relations with Rome. But there was still a large Protestant party with which Princess Elizabeth was still tenuously allied. But in the United States in 1979, the bishops were mainly “reformers.” There was no equivalent to Cardinal Pole. If Mary had lived another twenty years, probably Elizabeth would have turned Catholic, maybe even married her “Robin.” But “ifs” don’t matter in history.
“Reform comes slowly.”
What happens to the souls of those who pass in the meantime?
Shouldn’t there be a bit of a sense of urgency about this?
One can be as urgent as one wants, but that doesn’t mean one can make powerful men do what they don’t want to do. The USCCB is a power bloc, and its leaders, like many of the leaders in the Vatican itself , were liberals. The apostolic delegate had been busily packing the episcopate with soulmates, so Bernardin had the votes. John Paul faced similar situations everywhere. Pius X only pushed modernism underground and V2 gave it its opportunity to emerge in force. Myself, it has only been in the last 20 years that I have come to see what ruin has been done in the name of its “spirit.”
John Paul II appointed most of the current bishops (at least by the time he had died); the buck stops there.
The USCCB is a paper tiger in terms of power, which is why Obama doesn’t fear them; I’d like to see how many voters they can pull from the “D” column with this current battle. The majority of Americans listened to their bishops as long as the path to salvation was wide; I’m curious to see how this shakes out.
Wrong. The pope ratifies their appointments. The American bishops usually nominate them. It is then sent up the chain through the apostolic delegate, then to Rome. The Curia has much less control over who gets bishop than it did during the time of Pius XII, who had pointmen like Spellman in the USA.
“The pope ratifies their appointments.”
Enough said; he has 100% control over who “gets bishop”.
Theoretically the President “picks” the asst secretary of hod-carrying. Get with it. The pope does not KNOW, seldom does know these people personally. He may know someone like Kurt Campbell, who has a resume as long as your arm, but leaves the lesser missions to underlings. Furthermore, the Holy Father is now having adliminas in groups of bishops because he no longer has the energy to see them one on one for even fifteen minutes. John Paul was in worse shape for the last ten years of his life. The Vatican is a court, and the pope is only the head of that court. The power of that court was greatly limited by the manuevers of Vatican II. Remember that the Curia could not even set the agenda of the Council. Like many councils in history, the council was a revolt against Rome. Trent and Vatican I were notable exceptions.
There is a reason why Jesus picked Peter to be the first Pope, while asking John to care for His Mother; some people will try, and some people have earned the right not to be put to the test. John the Beloved was the only apostle not to die a martyr’s death, while Peter insisted on not being crucified in the same manner as Our Lord (he was crucified upside down instead for his protestations).
There is no defense, especially in this day and age (media-wise) for inactivity on the part of our shepherd.
No general is better than his army.
There are many faithful religious who do these things and ask for nothing.
God bless this Pope and help him to cleanse the Church.
Thank you for this clarification. Holy Orders is not so clear to many Catholics as it once was.... and things have changed so much since the 1960’s when I was first introduced to the subject and possiblity of becoming a Dominican Nun.
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