Posted on 03/06/2012 4:44:41 PM PST by pastorbillrandles
you see prophetic significance to the rebirth of Israel?
Maybe. Or maybe there is another “rebirth” yet to come which is the one prophecy speaks of, and the Second Coming will not be in our liftimes at all. We see only the thin sliver of history our brief lives can occupy. It’s easy to believe that there can be no more than this because it’s all we know.
**I’m the same age, and have many of the same circumstances. I came to a different conclusion, but I didn’t start with the premise that it’s all about me and my life.**
And you aren’t proud either. Congratulations.
My view (witness), is that what’s happening in the world of sin, has increased it’s grasp on areas that, only a couple of generations ago, seemed quite resistant to an increasingly sinful world.
I’m hopeful, and prayerful that this can be reversed. But, such reversals have proven to be quite bloody, as history can attest. And the next effort could involve the worst weapons ever devised, in a worldwide involvement.
Personally, I think that right now would be the worst time in our county’s history to have a major drought. It would have a enormous impact on inflation, when we are in economic peril at this time. In the 30’s the population was much smaller, and many folk had gardens and canned their own food. Not so today.
Lot’s of scenarios. Lord knows.
But with this I do say how technology has made it possible for us to get news at a speed never before..and for that we are seeing things as they happen....which can make some things appear happening faster when it is really the use of technology revealing this.
Even so...it's the ‘movement and placement” of world leaders...shifts within the middle east have to occur because they must have the oil revenues usable for a one world economic system...they aren't about to let them manage those for two much longer. Opec was and remains a threat to the globalists for the power they weld...so incorporating them is what much of the “Arab Spring” is about.
Again it's much about alignments as they move closer to the positions where what is written can and of course will one day occur.
We have the same thing happening with the “Unity” and Inclusiveness of the faith movements happening now. The One world System has to have a “spiritual side” to move the people at will....thus we are seeing the church leaders push now for this inclusiveness....which of course is the forerunner for a One World Religious System.
Additionally IMO the USA has to be weakened...and we see this as well. If Obama wins the election, or Romney it will be telling in and of itself for neither will “fight” for our supremacy....rather take the USA further into the Globalist Worldwide agenda and all that entails. Hillary and Bill Clinton's movements throughout the nations has been far more than just humanitarian efforts...you can be sure of that.
So yes the clock is ticking...and as you say even secular humanity understands this....and with that “looking” for something/someone other than Jesus Christ.
There's nothing biblical about preserving this world..though most do what they can to tend it while here... appears you've taken the bait for believing otherwise.
I do find many more people who understand these times and are still very much going about their life as normalthan that which you've mentioned..... They have concerns for their familys future and are working hard to prepare them for it as most loving families do. An yet they are very much aware of the times we live and that Christ can come at any time. It's an expectation we have which Christ himself encouraged us to "watch".
It's odd you would say that people aren't interested if "preserving the republic" the primary itself evidences otherwise as do many who post throughout FR....this nations people have always attempted to do their part...even in light of the times and seasons.
There's nothing biblical about preserving this world..though most do what they can to tend it while here... appears you've taken the bait for believing otherwise.
I do find many more people who understand these times and are still very much going about their life as normalthan that which you've mentioned..... They have concerns for their familys future and are working hard to prepare them for it as most loving families do. An yet they are very much aware of the times we live and that Christ can come at any time. It's an expectation we have which Christ himself encouraged us to "watch".
It's odd you would say that people aren't interested if "preserving the republic" the primary itself evidences otherwise as do many who post throughout FR....this nations people have always attempted to do their part...even in light of the times and seasons.
Yes I agree Zuriel....there is no "sanctity" of life today...it's disposable and no wonder men today have no sense of "protecting" their loved ones as we once knew so well. Plus there's no shame....for evil ways and deeds are not only tolerated but encouraged. "Calling that which is evil good...and good evil" comes to mind. And we are surely that generation playing out today...and I suspect it will get worse.
The word “mansion” did not always mean what it does today. It previously referred to ANY dwelling (not necessarily anything large and fancy), or an apartment block, sometimes even somewhere to stay overnight.
This is the problem with relying too heavily on the KJV. Many of the words have changed meaning. We have the same problem the KJV referring to the Holy Spirit as the Comforter - comfort used to mean to support or encourage. Nowadays it means to console.
My biggest problem with the KJV is simply that it is written in a language with which I am not familiar. It is a bit like being a person that has been through two years of German and then trying to read a German bible. So much of my main cpu is being called upon to determine the meaning of eacy word that I quickly lose contextual meaning of what I am reading. It is also exhausting.
Communication is a primary function of my occupation. I believe in speaking with customers and developers in the language they can most understand so that they take away from a conversation a strong understanding of what was being communicated.
From that perspective, the KJV is almost worthless today. And if I want to confirm the validity of the other versions, I can do that, when necessary, via the Hebrew/Greek Lexicon.
Jesus said to render unto God what is God's and unto Caesar what is Caesar's. You're a free citizen of a self-governing constitutional republic. That comes with responsibilities.
Politically, I'm an "original intent" Constitutionalist. I don't look for enumerated powers in the Bible. Saying that people "aren't interested in preseving the repulic" is mild compared to the criticism I get for having that view.
The word “mansion” did not always mean what it does today. It previously referred to ANY dwelling (not necessarily anything large and fancy), or an apartment block, sometimes even somewhere to stay overnight.
This is the problem with relying too heavily on the KJV. Many of the words have changed meaning. We have the same problem the KJV referring to the Holy Spirit as the Comforter - comfort used to mean to support or encourage. Nowadays it means to console.
And a mansion could be considered a haven, but what ever it may mean to any one of us you can bet that Jesus was talking about something a little different than what is familiar to us here in this world.
“My biggest problem with the KJV is simply that it is written in a language with which I am not familiar”
I grew up with the Plymouth Brethren in South Africa. They used ONLY the KJV - in fact, they still do. In spite of growing up with it, it was a long time before I started to realise that words had changed meaning, aside from the generally archaic language.
Things can get very interesting language-wise in South Africa. For instance, we have 11 official languages - English, Afrikaans, and 9 African languages, plus some unofficial languages.
At one stage I was the organist for a Baptist church in university territory which had a mainly elderly white congregation. In about 1990 they acquired a new pastor - very evangelistic - and nowadays that is a thriving multicultural, multiracial congregation, probably about 60% black. In addition to all the South African languages, they also have people from Zimbabwe - another couple of languages, people from Kenya and surrounds (Swahili) plus French speaking refugees from Congo, Rwanda, etc. Also academics and students who come from those countries plus Nigeria, Cameroon, South Korea, Madagascar and a host of other countries. In any church service, there are people with probably 15 to 20 home languages, and for many of those English is their 3rd or 4th language.
Can you imagine if they had use the KJV in those circumstances?!! Their pew Bibles are the NIV, which while I would not use it as a study Bible, is perfect for that sort of congregation given that it is in easily understandable English. And those who still remain of the older white congregation are extremely hospitable, as they always were - they just needed the right pastoral leadership.
Meanwhile the Brethren with their KJV are dying, literally. They are rather short on younger people.
But many and most peopel Are responsible.....and what does this have to do with perserving the world...it’s not wired for preservation....we just take care of what we can and keep on living life....goint to our church of choice and paying our tax’s....and so....what is your point?
Just because people are watching for the return of Christ, and interest in the obvious happenings in our day doesn’t mean they’re irresponsible by any means...or that they stopped living.
Good point. I said people weren’t concerned about preserving the republic. I didn’t say anything about “preserving the world”, and should have just left this conversation alone as soon as it changed to that. I can’t defend what I didn’t say.
“The batting average of those who have claimed over the last 2,000 years that they were living in the end times is deplorably low. So I vote “Interesting Times.”
I read some years ago that as the year 1,000 approached the calendar makers refused to make any more calendars. Why? Because they were convinced that the year 1,000 would be the end of the world.
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