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"The Roman Catholic Mass is undergoing major overhaul." (CNN gets it wrong!)[Catholic Caucus]
Insiight Scoop ^ | November 10. 2011 | Carol Olson

Posted on 11/11/2011 5:13:17 PM PST by Salvation

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**We all know that many Catholics are sick of mediocrity and banality; they want meat and richness and fullness and beauty. **

Can the REAL Catholics here on FR shout "Amen!"

1 posted on 11/11/2011 5:13:20 PM PST by Salvation
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To: All
And now the truth:

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2 posted on 11/11/2011 5:14:16 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

AMEN!


3 posted on 11/11/2011 5:17:10 PM PST by philly-d-kidder (AB-Sheen"The truth is the truth if nobody believes it,a lie is still a lie, everybody believes it")
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To: Salvation

The RC has never had a “major overhaul”. One doesn’t overhaul the truth or it would have been a lie.

Luther tried it but failed.


4 posted on 11/11/2011 5:17:56 PM PST by 353FMG (.)
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To: Salvation
The new translation seems reasonable when it is merely going back to the more accurate translation before the “change”. Where the new translation appears to be an academic exercise in linguistics, e.g. using a long unfamiliar word instead of two or three simpler words where there is no single word available for direct translation, it seems counterproductive.
5 posted on 11/11/2011 5:23:24 PM PST by Prokopton
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To: Salvation
They didn't accidentally "get it wrong."

They are deliberately spreading disinformation in hopes of stirring the pot.

6 posted on 11/11/2011 5:26:11 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The enemy of my enemy is my candidate.<sup>®</sup>)
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To: nickcarraway; NYer; ELS; Pyro7480; livius; ArrogantBustard; Catholicguy; RobbyS; marshmallow; ...

Catholic Ping!


7 posted on 11/11/2011 5:34:28 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation
(CNN gets it wrong!)

That's kind of like saying Five O'Clock Charlie "gets it wrong"...

8 posted on 11/11/2011 5:44:04 PM PST by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: Salvation

New Mass BUMP


9 posted on 11/11/2011 5:47:14 PM PST by kitkat (Obama, rope and chains)
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To: Salvation

Its funny how the same liberal social justice CINO’s that all talk about welcoming change are now the ones most upset by these changes.


10 posted on 11/11/2011 5:47:40 PM PST by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the constitution"-Obama official)
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To: Salvation

We’ve been using the new text for several weeks now and we’ve had a large number of homilies and meetings about it to get everyone up to speed. It’s still hard to remember where the changes occur, but I think our pastor is really doing a good job about getting us ready.


11 posted on 11/11/2011 5:49:41 PM PST by perez24 (Dirty deeds, done dirt cheap.)
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To: Salvation

Amen.

This is a start....I just wish they would go back to the Latin mass. They could write the English translation beneath it and it would really stretch the Catholic mind and give children something to decode. They could learn Latin words like I did-—I had Latin in high school— to help with science and the English and Romance languages.

I think Vatican II was part of the Marxist infiltration—dumbing down— of the Church to destroy it from within. Just my personal “feelings”.


12 posted on 11/11/2011 5:49:41 PM PST by savagesusie
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The next step should be doing away with Mass facing the people, which stripped it of its external solemnity and made it about entertainment.

I’m happy the Byzantine-rite eparchies never adopted it.


13 posted on 11/11/2011 5:53:21 PM PST by rzman21
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To: perez24

I think the pastors learned from the previous changes that a lot of pre - use work was needed for parishioners.

Our priest has been doing classes and is going to preach on it this week to try to reach more people.

I’ve been in a church where they are already practicing with a card in the pews.

I’m so excited — can’t wait to get our cards in a couple of weeks.


14 posted on 11/11/2011 5:55:36 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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I want the Communion rails back too!


16 posted on 11/11/2011 5:56:48 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: savagesusie

I agree that Vatican II — the U. S. Bishops tried a dumbing down — now they are learning that it didn’t work.

Basically all these changes have been in the foreign languages. Just English and French went off the path.


17 posted on 11/11/2011 5:58:28 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: savagesusie

The English version of the Mass was ALWAYS available.

On the right hand page of your Missal, with the Tridentine Mass on the left hand page, in Latin, throughout the entire Liturgy.

Anyway, if Holy Mother Church is finally throwing away the touchy-feely tambouriny `folk mass’ horrors of post Vatican II, then so much the better.

Deo gratias!


18 posted on 11/11/2011 6:18:07 PM PST by elcid1970 ("Deport all Muslims. Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind.")
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To: Salvation

Oddly enough, our pastor, who is young and very orthodox, has uttered barely a peep about the new translation, other than one passing reference and a small notice in the bulletin. I’m surprised there isn’t more explanation or catechesis, but maybe he’s worried about the reaction. However, I think it necessary to give the peeps the basic reasoning that this is to provide a more accurate translation of the original Latin text.


19 posted on 11/11/2011 6:19:34 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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