SLC Utah: Mormon Church Officials Release Extensive List Of "Stake Centers" Opening Their Doors

Exmormon.org ^ | November 8, 2011 | Unknown

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News Int'l - Dateline 11/7/11 - SLC Utah: Mormon Church Officials Release Extensive List Of Church Facilities Opening Their Doors for Thanksgiving Meals for Homeless and Needy...

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[Elsie]

The rabble 99% were going from church to church gobbling down, and wasting, the free food.

[metmom]

YES. The LDS Church provides welfare support to millions of people on a day to day basis.

NO. The LDS Church doesn’t grandstand by opening soup kitchens just two days a year ... Thanksgiving and Christmas.

I guess that they simply leave the hypocrisy to others who are willing to grandstand two days a year.

.... after all, Christ said that when you do your alms ...let not your right hand know what your left hand doeth.

You know this how?

Would you care to provide sources and links to support your contention that this is indeed how Christians operate? That they indeed don't help others throughout the year and that their Thanksgiving and Christmas dinners are just grandstanding? That they are indeed hypocrites in the way they relate to the poor?

[metmom]

Luke 18:9-14 9He also told this parable to some who trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and treated others with contempt: 10"Two men went up into the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11The Pharisee, standing by himself, prayed thus: 'God, I thank you that I am not like other men, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector. 12 I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I get.'

13But the tax collector, standing far off, would not even lift up his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, 'God, be merciful to me, a sinner!' 14I tell you, this man went down to his house justified, rather than the other. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but the one who humbles himself will be exalted."

[Saundra Duffy]

“The rabble were going from church to church gobbling down, and wasting, the free food.”

Good point.

[Saundra Duffy]

This is perplexing. Whenever we have any kind of event that involves food, we are always requested to bring non members. There’s always plenty of food and plenty of good feelings.

Plus the LDS Church helps non members and members all over the world. There should be nothing but good things to say about The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. Just like all the Christian churches that reach out to people in need. Sheeeesh already.

[Colofornian]

Plus the LDS Church helps non members and members all over the world.

From the exmormon source of the article: I volunteered in a cannery. They had the production schedule up. Out of the 12,000 cans we produced, 11.500 were specifically made to be sold. Only 450 were marked humanitarian. This says it all.

So, the Lds sets aside about 4% for "humanitarian" -- and sells the rest of its cans?

It can't even match the tithe it imposes on its members?

[aMorePerfectUnion]

“There should be nothing but good things to say about The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.”

OK, I’ll try!

Here are some good things I can say about The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints:

... It is an uplifting teaching that we can all become mormon gods - very inspirational in such a depressing age!
... It is so nice to see the level of dedication of those young elders as they go door to door telling Christians their Churches are false - they inspire us all.
... It is a real service to humanity that the mormon church has recycled all those condemned heresies, instead of leaving them on the dustbin of Church history - recycling is a good thing, I’ve heard.

See everyone, it is easy!

[svcw]

Do you have a source for that claim.
The wards where ever I have lived ONLY serve their members.
In fact according to my lds family members, when a ward helps their own members, they (the lds members) are required to pay back the “charity”.
As far as the “grandstanding” claim, I have never seen a Christian church with a PR division, as does the lds group in SLC.

[svcw]

My lds family has told me that when “charity” is given to its members they are asked to pay it back.
Do you have a source for the lds SLC group helping non members?

[Elsie]

There should be nothing but good things to say about The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.

Let's start here!

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Here is MORMONism's own creed:

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Articles of Faith

The Articles of Faith outline 13 basic points of belief of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
The Prophet Joseph Smith first wrote them in a letter to John Wentworth, a newspaper editor,
in response to Mr. Wentworth's request to know what members of the Church believed.
They were subsequently published in Church periodicals.
They are now regarded as scripture and included in the Pearl of Great Price.

 

THE ARTICLES OF FAITH
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS
History of the Church, Vol. 4, pp. 535—541

 

 

1. We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.
   
2. We believe that men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam's transgression.
   
3. We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel.
   
4. We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, Repentance; third, Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost.
   
5. We believe that a man must be called of God, by prophecy, and by the laying on of hands by those who are in authority, to preach the Gospel and administer in the ordinances thereof.
   
6. We believe in the same organization that existed in the Primitive Church, namely, apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists, and so forth.
   
7. We believe in the gift of tongues, prophecy, revelation, visions, healing, interpretation of tongues, and so forth.
   
8. We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.
   
9. We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that He will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God.
   
10. We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes; that Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the American continent; that Christ will reign personally upon the earth; and, that the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacal glory.
    
11. We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may.
    
12. We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.
    
13. We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men; indeed, we may say that we follow the admonition of Paul—We believe all things, we hope all things, we have endured many things, and hope to be able to endure all things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things.

Joseph Smith

 

[Elsie]

Feeding the homeless and needy at Thanksgiving will fill their belly and give them warmth for a day, but the Book of Mormon will fill their spiritual belly and warm their bosom for a lifetime!

And then they die; and find out that the 'salvation' that MORMONism offers is, shall we say, a bit lacking.

[Elsie]

4.We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, Repentance; third, Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost.

When do we find out about the SECOND or THIRD principles?

[Elsie]

#6 & #7

...and so forth???

That’s really precise!

[Elsie]

10.We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes; that Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the American continent; that Christ will reign personally upon the earth; and, that the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacal glory.

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Isaiah 65:17 "Behold, I will create new heavens and a new earth. The former things will not be remembered, nor will they come to mind.

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Isaiah 66:22 "As the new heavens and the new earth that I make will endure before me," declares the LORD, "so will your name and descendants endure. .

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2 Peter 3:13 But in keeping with his promise we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth, the home of righteousness.

 

 

Revelation 21:1

King James Bible
And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

[Saundra Duffy]

My Stake Center has a food drive on right now for Community Food Bank. Here is what is requested for us to put in each individual box:

1 (5 oz) bx stuffing; 1 pkg gravy; 2 lbs rice; 2 lbs pinto beans; 1 bx instant potatoes; 2 bx mac ‘n cheese; 2 (15 oz) cans of green beans; 2 (5 oz) cans fruit cocktail; and 1 cake mix

The LDS Church is busy world-wide helping non members so I am perplexed why you posted this thing. I am waiting for an apology . . .

[svcw]

"The LDS Church is busy world-wide helping non members"

Source?

My lds family says that when members are "helped" they are required to pay back the "charity".

Didn't you say just a few posts back that lds "help" people all year? So why the "food drive" for Thanksgiving? You disparaged Christian Churches that have feasts for the community on Thanksgiving, as I recall. Waiting for an apology.

[svcw]

Just read on an lds site that they (lds) have donated one billion dollars in cash and aide since 1987. They included in that figure the 53K “missionaries”.
When one figures that lds collects over a billion a year in forced tithes, well its just not much.

[Elsie]

I am waiting for an apology . . .

It may be a while; as there are a LOT of PRESBYTERIANs ahead of you.

[BlueMoose]

Source?

Just read on an lds site that they (lds) have donated one billion dollars in cash and aide since 1987. They included in that figure the 53K “missionaries”.
When one figures that lds collects over a billion a year in forced tithes, well its just not much.

[svcw]

My conclusion: When one figures that lds collects over a billion a year in forced tithes, well its just not much.

Source: http://mormon.org/faq/mormons-help-everyone/ AND since the lds group WILL NOT open its books for examination, I just guessed on the one billion dollar a year figure. AND yes I did say forced tithe as my lds family and friends are required to show to their bishop every year their W2s, so they can be billed (yes billed) their tithes.