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To: BenKenobi

Oh, come on now. Of course I know that a “fertilized egg” is a human, a zygote. I used the term so that readers would be more able to picture what’s going on in the womb — that a mere “egg” isn’t prevented from attaching to the wall of the uterus, but a “fertilized egg” (i.e., a “human zygote”) is prevented from attaching to the wall of the uterus.

You’re trying to pick a fight where there’s no fight. We both believe that life begins when at conception, and that some “contraceptives” are actually “abortifacients.”

You wrote, “So you are ok with both contracepted sex and sterlization. So you really don’t believe that sex should be open to children.”

Yes, I am OK with married couples using wisdom to decide that they have the number of children the Lord wills for them. If they’ve had 10 miscarriages in a row, they are free to choose to avoid becoming pregnant again. If the wife is becoming depressed to the point of suicide because of post-partum depression, she is free to choose to avoid becoming pregnant again. If the wife has developed a condition whereby if she were to become pregnant, her life would be in danger, she is free to choose to avoid becoming pregnant. If a couple is just unable to accommodate any more children, I am not going to damn them because they’ve made the decision to no longer become pregnant.

So now you’re equating a married couple that’s decided not to have any more children with homosexual “sex”?

Whew.

So, are you OK with the Roman Catholic practice of using NFP as a contraceptive? That’s now it is used in most cases — to avoid pregnancy.


60 posted on 10/26/2011 1:13:33 PM PDT by Theo (May Rome decrease and Christ increase.)
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To: Theo

Theo,

I have no way of knowing what you know, aside from what you say, and how you say it.

“Yes, I am OK with married couples using wisdom to decide that they have the number of children the Lord wills for them.”

So where in scripture do you draw this principle from?

“So now you’re equating a married couple that’s decided not to have any more children with homosexual “sex”?”

No. I’ve equated a married couple engaged in contracepted or sterilized sex with homosexuality. Both divide sex from procreation.

“So, are you OK with the Roman Catholic practice of using NFP as a contraceptive? That’s now it is used in most cases — to avoid pregnancy.”

That, and I’m going to correct you on this point, is not what the Church teaches. The Church teaches that NFP is a permissible way to acquire reliable information about a woman’s cycle. How that information is used is up to the couple. The couple may choose to engage in sex in certain periods, to take advantage of this information.

As such, it is not contraception at all. You are not engaging in contraception by choosing not to have sex.


63 posted on 10/26/2011 1:25:15 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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