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To: Theo

Theo,

I have no way of knowing what you know, aside from what you say, and how you say it.

“Yes, I am OK with married couples using wisdom to decide that they have the number of children the Lord wills for them.”

So where in scripture do you draw this principle from?

“So now you’re equating a married couple that’s decided not to have any more children with homosexual “sex”?”

No. I’ve equated a married couple engaged in contracepted or sterilized sex with homosexuality. Both divide sex from procreation.

“So, are you OK with the Roman Catholic practice of using NFP as a contraceptive? That’s now it is used in most cases — to avoid pregnancy.”

That, and I’m going to correct you on this point, is not what the Church teaches. The Church teaches that NFP is a permissible way to acquire reliable information about a woman’s cycle. How that information is used is up to the couple. The couple may choose to engage in sex in certain periods, to take advantage of this information.

As such, it is not contraception at all. You are not engaging in contraception by choosing not to have sex.


63 posted on 10/26/2011 1:25:15 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: BenKenobi

Yes, I know what the Roman Catholic Church teaches regarding NFP. But in practice, it is used to avoid having children. In other words, NFP is in most cases just another form of birth control.

So you’re equating those who use NFP and other forms of birth control with homosexual sex? If you can’t live with that conclusion, then your assumptions are faulty.

In your world, would you require severely depressed wives, and wives with life-threatening physical problems, to either avoid sexual relations or contraception? You would require them to potentially become pregnant, despite the dangers? Kinda legalistic and heartless, don’t you think?


65 posted on 10/26/2011 1:53:35 PM PDT by Theo (May Rome decrease and Christ increase.)
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To: BenKenobi

Wives who are past menopause will not become pregnant.

Is it wrong for such a woman to engage in sexual relations with her husband, knowing that she has no chance of becoming pregnant, knowing that the sexual activity has nothing to do with procreation?

Are you saying that the relational aspect of sexual intercourse is of minor importance?


66 posted on 10/26/2011 1:57:44 PM PDT by Theo (May Rome decrease and Christ increase.)
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