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Fresh Embrace of Everlasting Salvation [New Mass Translation Does Away With "Barbecue Talk"]
The Australian ^ | 5/22/10 | Tess Livingstone

Posted on 05/31/2010 8:30:06 AM PDT by marshmallow

After nine years of work, Catholic authorities have rewritten the mass

IN praying to the omnipotent God at mass, George Pell contends, it is not appropriate to "talk in the same way we do at a barbecue".

On the cardinal's desk sits an impressive, red-covered tome of 1266 gilt-edged pages, the new English edition of the Roman missal: one of a handful of copies in the world.

Barbecue lingo it is not, but when the new translation of the Catholic mass is introduced, its striking changes may prove to be a "barbecue stopper" at church gatherings and possibly beyond. Because, in introducing them, the church has struck a powerful blow in the culture wars against postmodernism and meaninglessness in favour of rigorous scholarship and precision of language.

The translations from the official Latin Roman missal and associated prayers was approved by Benedict XVI on March 25, the feast of the annunciation. A month later, the Vox Clara Committee, of which Pell is president, joined the Pope for a celebratory lunch at Casina Pio IV, a small 16th-century palace in the Vatican gardens.

It was the culmination of nine years of work by Vox Clara, formed by John Paul II to assist the Vatican's Congregation for the Sacraments in overseeing the project, and the International Commission on English in the Liturgy , a group of liturgical experts including bishops, who wrote the translation. John Paul II sacked the previous ICEL when its draft documents were seen as too politically correct.

To strengthen the quality and rigour of the new translation, Vox Clara and the new ICEL, headed by Arthur Roche, Bishop of Leeds, worked in accordance with a 2001 Vatican instruction, Liturgiam Authenticam, setting out what was required. In turn, ICEL was guided by Ratio Translationis for the English Language, broad sets............

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1 posted on 05/31/2010 8:30:06 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow
They are talking about two different times during the Mass in the "Lamb of God" section. (Reporters-----argh!)

Out with the old: what will change at mass

            
1. THE CREED:
Now: We believe in one God, the Father, the Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, of all that is seen and unseen. We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, of one Being with the Father.

New: I believe in one God, the Father almighty, maker of heaven and earth, of all things visible and invisible. I believe in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only Begotten Son of God, born of the Father before all ages. God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, consubstantial with the Father.

2. BEFORE THE LORD'S PRAYER:
Now: Jesus taught us to call God our Father, and so we have the courage to say . . . Our Father who art in Heaven . . .

New: At the Saviour's command and formed by divine teaching we dare to say . . . Our Father who art in Heaven . . .

3. LAMB OF GOD:
Now: Lamb of God, you who take away the sins of the world, have mercy upon us. Lamb of God, you who take away the sins of the world, have mercy upon us. Lamb of God, you who take away the sins of the world, grant us peace.

New: Behold the Lamb of God, behold him who takes away the sins of the world. Blessed are those called to the supper of the Lamb.

4. CONSECRATION
Now:
Take this all of you and drink from it: this is the cup of my blood, the blood of the new and everlasting covenant. It will be shed for you and for all so that sins may be forgiven. Do this in memory of me.

New: Take this, all of you and drink from it, for this is the chalice of my blood, the blood of the new and eternal covenant, which will be poured out for you and for many for the forgiveness of sins. Do this in memory of me.

5. EUCHARISTIC PRAYER 1:
Now: Father, accept this offering from your whole family. Grant us your peace in this life, save us from final damnation and count us among those you have chosen.

New: Lord, we pray: graciously accept this oblation of our service, that of your whole family: order our days in your peace, and command that we be delivered from eternal damnation and counted among the flock of those you have chosen.

6. EUCHARISTIC PRAYER 2:
Now: Let your Spirit come upon these gifts to make them holy, so that they may become for us the body and blood of our Lord, Jesus Christ.

Before he was given up to death, a death he freely accepted . . .

New: Make holy therefore these gifts we pray by sending down your spirit upon them like the dewfall so that they may become for us the body and blood of our Lord, Jesus Christ.

At the time he was betrayed and entered willingly into his Passion . . .

7. EUCHARISTIC PRAYER 3:
Now: All life, all holiness comes from you through your Son, Jesus Christ our Lord, by the working of the Holy Spirit. From age to age you gather a people to yourself, so that from east to west a perfect offering may be made to the glory of your name.

New: Through your Son, our Lord Jesus Christ, by the power and working of the Holy spirit, you give life to all things and make them holy, and you never cease to gather a people to yourself, so that from the rising of the sun to its setting a pure sacrifice may be offered to your name.

8. IN MASSES FOR THE DEAD:
Now: Remember (name) whom you have called from this life. In baptism he (she) died with Christ: may he (she) also share his resurrection.

New: Remember your servant (name) whom you have called from this world to yourself. Grant that he (she) who was united with your Son in a death like his, may also be one with him in his resurrection.


2 posted on 05/31/2010 8:40:13 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation
3. LAMB OF GOD:
Now: Lamb of God, you who take away the sins of the world, have mercy upon us. Lamb of God, you who take away the sins of the world, have mercy upon us. Lamb of God, you who take away the sins of the world, grant us peace.

New: Behold the Lamb of God, behold him who takes away the sins of the world. Blessed are those called to the supper of the Lamb.

The New part is actually different from: "This is the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world. Happy are those who are called to His feast." As far as I understand, the Agnus Dei doesn't change.

3 posted on 05/31/2010 9:01:02 AM PDT by Desdemona
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To: Desdemona

Oops. HTML error. Teaches me to not preview my posts.


4 posted on 05/31/2010 9:01:48 AM PDT by Desdemona
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To: Desdemona

**New: Behold the Lamb of God, behold him who takes away the sins of the world. Blessed are those called to the supper of the Lamb.

The New part is actually different from: “This is the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world. Happy are those who are called to His feast.”**

To me, this is the most beautiful part of the entire translation!


5 posted on 05/31/2010 9:03:08 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation
Definitely better.

We have to plan for this as the choir will need to have the new version in our binders. It's definitely more reverent.

6 posted on 05/31/2010 9:06:50 AM PDT by Desdemona
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I wasn’t aware of anything happening with the Agnus Dei either.

Oh, we had a youth choir this last weekend for all the Masses. Although inexperienced, they made up for it in offerings of inspiration and live music.

NO pre-recorded music! Hooray. And we have an organist who has started a choir that does more traditional hymns, although she sometimes reverts to present Music Director’s wishes on choices of Haas, Schuette, et al, music.

Our priest had been in the parish five years now and the axes is starting to fall on the guitar and pre-recorded music. Prayers still needed, however.


7 posted on 05/31/2010 9:08:03 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

The transition in music styles can be very traumatic. It’s kind of a “one man’s trash is another man’s treasure” sort of thing.


8 posted on 05/31/2010 9:12:25 AM PDT by Desdemona
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To: marshmallow

Can anyone explain to me why we could not just go with the English translation that appeared in the original missal?


9 posted on 05/31/2010 9:45:22 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Palin/Hunter 2012 -- Bolton their Secretary of State)
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To: Bigg Red

Original missal?

1962?

1970?

the interim missal?


10 posted on 05/31/2010 9:49:58 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: Desdemona

Finally!! “I believe.” How could ‘credo’ be translated any other way? This has truly bugged me.


11 posted on 05/31/2010 10:03:29 AM PDT by bboop (We don't need no stinkin' VAT)
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To: Salvation

>>Lamb of God

What about the response?


12 posted on 05/31/2010 3:16:43 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Judas Iscariot - the first social justice advocate. John 12:3-6)
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To: Jeff Chandler

I”m already saying the response. Are you?

“Lord, I am not worthy that thous shouldst come under my roof, but only say the word and my soul shall be healed.”

Gotta love all of it!


13 posted on 05/31/2010 3:21:21 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

That’s what I was looking for. The one I said as a child (and in Latin as an altar boy).


14 posted on 05/31/2010 3:24:54 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Judas Iscariot - the first social justice advocate. John 12:3-6)
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To: Salvation

I have been saying, “but only say the word and my soul shall be healed.”


15 posted on 05/31/2010 6:39:11 PM PDT by sojourner
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