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1 posted on 05/08/2010 4:33:55 AM PDT by NYer
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All significant investigation into how the images might have been formed by some perfectly natural means so far suggests that a simple process is all but impossible. Chemical reactions (or stains) caused by contact with the body would produce a grossly distorted image. Gaseous products from a body or funerary spices would seem to produce a diffused image lacking in detail. Radiant energy such as bodily heat lacks essential directional qualities.

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2 posted on 05/08/2010 4:36:21 AM PDT by NYer ("Where Peter is, there is the Church." - St. Ambrose of Milan)
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To: Swordmaker

Ping!


3 posted on 05/08/2010 4:36:39 AM PDT by NYer ("Where Peter is, there is the Church." - St. Ambrose of Milan)
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To: NYer

...wow.


4 posted on 05/08/2010 4:37:02 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus)
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To: NYer

http://www.shroud.com/guscin.htm

One clincher in the recent series about the face of Jesus and the shroud- the matching of the shroud to the Sudarium of Oviedo, which I had never heard about


5 posted on 05/08/2010 4:43:22 AM PDT by silverleaf
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To: NYer

ping


6 posted on 05/08/2010 4:50:37 AM PDT by FoxPro (jroehl2@yahoo.com)
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To: NYer

RE: the 1988 C-14 testing that dates The Shroud to a medieval origin.

Those who claim that the 1988 tests were compromised by bungled “patch-sampling” seem forced to admit that, if the tests results are wrong, and The Shroud is authentic, then it’s held by the technically and scientifically incompetent and isn’t completely safe in their keeping. Third possibility- it’s held by malefactors who know it’s a hoax and intentionally mis-sampled for the 1988 test to keep the controversy alive as long as possible. If this third way turns out to be the truth, then The Shroud still isn’t safe where it currently abides.

So either The Shroud is C-14 medieval, or or authentic and held by nincompoops who couldn’t tell a patch in the cloth from a hole in the ground, or it’s the Turin Cathedral’s hoax and we’re being played for fools. Would that the the rich, hoary, decrepit men-on-robes club that holds the shroud was willing to double down and carefully retest the carbon.


12 posted on 05/08/2010 7:38:53 AM PDT by flowerplough ( Pennsylvania today - New New Jersey meets North West Virginia.)
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I believe the purpose of the Shroud is to trickle out scientific evidence during these modern times as a tool to reach those who will only believe through technology and science.

As technology progresses, it will become more and more apparent to these modern Thomases that the Shroud is authentic. Then they will have to rethink their doubts about Christ.

I see it as another gift from God, who always considers His children’s needs. He left this as a gift for His children far in the future.

Personally, I wouldn’t be surprised if Mary had not taken possession of the Shroud at first and then given it to Church leaders to protect— and to continue Her son’s work. It makes sense to me that a loving mother would gather up the linens she’d buried her son in, especially if they were soaked in his blood.


24 posted on 05/08/2010 10:15:30 AM PDT by Melian (The two most common elements in the world are hydrogen and stupidity.)
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Shroud of Turin PING!

If you want on or off the Shroud of Turin Ping List, Freepmail me.


25 posted on 05/08/2010 10:15:50 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE isAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: NYer
This bit of cloth can be made to support whatever the viewer wishes it to.

As to any kind of hard, factual, evidence....nope.

26 posted on 05/08/2010 10:17:43 AM PDT by Logic n' Reason (Buzzard's gotta eat; same as worms.)
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Ping.


27 posted on 05/08/2010 10:19:44 AM PDT by Interesting Times (For the truth about "swift boating" see ToSetTheRecordStraight.com)
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To: NYer

Nothing new here whatsoever.....but glad to see more scientists getting onboard.


34 posted on 05/08/2010 2:15:29 PM PDT by RightOnline
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Shroud of Turin ping


41 posted on 05/09/2010 1:28:56 AM PDT by lonevoice (If Fox News is the only outlet reporting it, did it really happen?)
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Shroud of Turin supports Resurrection, expert affirms

Of course.

54 posted on 05/10/2010 3:14:49 PM PDT by Bellflower (If you are left DO NOT take the mark of the beast and be damned forever.)
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