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Best-Selling Bible for Conservative Evangelicals to Undergo Revision
Fox News ^ | 9/1/09 | AP

Posted on 09/01/2009 7:23:57 PM PDT by Ron C.

The top-selling Bible in North America will undergo its first revision in 25 years, modernizing the language in some sections and promising to reopen a contentious debate about changing gender terms in the sacred text.

The New International Version, the Bible of choice for conservative evangelicals, will be revised to reflect changes in English usage and advances in Biblical scholarship, it was announced Tuesday. The revision is scheduled to be completed late next year and published in 2011.

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TOPICS: Apologetics; General Discusssion; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: bibles; niv; pc; religiousleft; revisionism
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I've been a student of Biblical translation for nearly 50 years now, and rue the drift toward liberal 'politically correct' dishonest translations... not the least of which has been the NIV. Will they return to a literal translation? I wouldn't bet on it, but I know they got burnt rather harshly with their last offering, so perhaps they hope to correct some of the worst of it.

The AP (completely ignorant on the subject) gets it wrong, of course. The NIV is not the top-selling Bible, and it certainly isn't the choice for any true conservative evangelical that I know.

Worse, the AP is oblivious to the fact that religious conservatism barely exists within denominational venues, having long ago fled to the only growing sector of Christianity - non-denominational churches. (One small exception exists... some parts of the Southern Baptist Church)

1 posted on 09/01/2009 7:23:57 PM PDT by Ron C.
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To: Ron C.

That’s one reason I always laugh at Christians who believe the Bible is the literal word of God when right on the cover it says “King James Version.”


2 posted on 09/01/2009 7:26:10 PM PDT by RAO1125 (Neoconservatism:Failed. Socialism:Failing (again). Next up: Libertarianism)
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To: RAO1125
I always laugh at Christians

Obviously, you're very proud of yourself.

3 posted on 09/01/2009 7:29:19 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Ron C.; Alex Murphy
New International Version, the Bible of choice for conservative evangelicals

That isn't really true, is it? The NIV is a pretty poor translation.

4 posted on 09/01/2009 7:31:38 PM PDT by Campion ("President Barack Obama" is an anagram for "An Arab-backed Imposter")
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To: RAO1125

So you’re suggesting that if we can’t read the Gospels in the original Aramaic, Hebrew and Greek we aren’t getting the literal word?


5 posted on 09/01/2009 7:31:38 PM PDT by Procyon (To the global warming fanatics the problem is too many people and the solution is genocide.)
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To: RAO1125

So what else have you done here in your 3 weeks at FR zot meat!


6 posted on 09/01/2009 7:38:47 PM PDT by JohnD9207 (REGISTERED RIGHT WING THUG!)
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To: RAO1125
LOL - you have a point, but that first of it's kind is probably the most accurate translation. I spent years in study of the original Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic languages, and have copies of all the original text in those languages - with a large number books covering newly found copies of scrolls and fragments.

What is most amazing is the accuracy of the oldest translations and copies - versus the ever increasing pollution and twisting of intent found in the 'modern versions.'

Hey - too many want to put words in the mouth of God himself... (for which the Book says they will pay dearly.)

7 posted on 09/01/2009 7:39:56 PM PDT by Ron C. (Wake up - Go see how it really is - then speak from knowledge)
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To: Campion

You are correct sir. The NIV is a poor translation that water-down the “Godhead” to “divine nature”, a new age term.

Among others of the thousands of revsions originated by the pederast Westcott.


8 posted on 09/01/2009 7:41:11 PM PDT by kingpins10
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To: Procyon
"So you’re suggesting...."

I suggest no such thing. This is something I did for myself, and only for purposes of checking some key points. But, in the process I found many slight variations from the original... most of which didn't change intent or meaning very much.

Knowing original language allows one to find meaning found in that language that is lost in translation... expanding the vista of meaning, not changing it, as the folk at Biblica have done.

9 posted on 09/01/2009 7:45:21 PM PDT by Ron C. (Wake up - Go see how it really is - then speak from knowledge)
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To: RAO1125

Gee, another skeptic (atheist), hard at it. Someone who has spent many years studying all the possibilities regarding GOD’s holy word, with at least one degree in theological study under his belt. Someone we should listen to.

Thank you sir for your insight.


10 posted on 09/01/2009 7:46:21 PM PDT by doc1019 (Obama? Not so much.)
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To: Campion
"That isn't really true, is it?"

No it isn't true... but, lies aren't uncommon in AP stories, are they.

8^)

11 posted on 09/01/2009 7:46:58 PM PDT by Ron C. (Wake up - Go see how it really is - then speak from knowledge)
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Do you think this will happen because the Catholics will be re-working the words of the Liturgy with the Bible going back to more traditional language?

Might be.


12 posted on 09/01/2009 7:48:33 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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The top-selling Bible in North America will undergo its first revision in 25 years, modernizing the language in some sections and promising to reopen a contentious debate about changing gender terms in the sacred text.

And, the TNIV is being retired.

Saw that earlier today.

Honestly haven't used an NIV in years. Banged around for a while and settled on the ESV. It's very close to the RSV I was raised on (being a revision of it), and for me, very readable. And the committee wasn't afraid of keeping the big technical words -- justification, propitiation, etc.

The ESV also attempts to be gender neutral, when appropriate, in a way that doesn't club you over the head with it's PC-ness.

The real solution, of course, would be to raise a generation capable of reading the original languages. Like that'll happen.

Would love, by the way, to get me one of these (NET Bible NT/NA27 diglot with notes).

13 posted on 09/01/2009 7:48:41 PM PDT by Lee N. Field ("Take, drink. Remember and believe that the blood of Jesus was shed for a complete remission ...")
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To: Procyon
Ooops... I see you addressed that to another, not myself.

Sorry I missed that! 8^(

14 posted on 09/01/2009 7:49:46 PM PDT by Ron C. (Wake up - Go see how it really is - then speak from knowledge)
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To: Campion
New International Version, the Bible of choice for conservative evangelicals

That isn't really true, is it? The NIV is a pretty poor translation.

Is true. And I see no contradiction between "NIV is a pretty poor translation" and it being "the Bible of choice for conservative evangelicals". Alas.

15 posted on 09/01/2009 7:52:56 PM PDT by Lee N. Field (Come, behold the works of the LORD, how he has brought desolations on the earth.)
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To: Campion; Ron C.
That isn't really true, is it? The NIV is a pretty poor translation.

I try to avoid the NIV whenever possible because it crosses the border between a translation and an paraphrase too often for my tastes. The ESV seems to be growing in popularity as the translation of choice for conservative Reformed Protestants (as opposed to "conservative evangelicals") from what I hear.

Related threads:
Google Buys Out all Bible Versions, Offers E-Tablet
ESV-Kindle-Only Churches Growing Fast

16 posted on 09/01/2009 7:57:54 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (One man, alone! Betrayed by the country he loves, now its last hope in their final hour of need!)
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To: RAO1125
That’s one reason I always laugh at Christians...

RAO1125
Since Aug 12, 2009

17 posted on 09/01/2009 8:03:27 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Alex Murphy

Hows the New King James version?


18 posted on 09/01/2009 8:04:47 PM PDT by Mmogamer (<This space for lease>)
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To: Alex Murphy; xzins; blue-duncan
The ESV seems to be growing in popularity as the translation of choice for conservative Reformed Protestants (as opposed to "conservative evangelicals") from what I hear.

I love the ESV. I especially love to hear it read by Max McClean at this site.

The ESV is published by Crossway Books, but they are kinda cheap in material and printing quality.

I bought one made by Oxford Bible and it is of extremely high quality.

19 posted on 09/01/2009 8:09:09 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Ron C.

Is “knowing the original languages” the same thing as knowing the ancient original languages? Are Hebrew and Greek spoken today the same way they were five to two thousand years ago? Languages change over time, new words and concepts develop over time. I’m pretty sure The Lord has ways to preserve his words to mankind over all that time. I commend you for your scholarship.


20 posted on 09/01/2009 8:15:16 PM PDT by boatbums (A man is no fool who gives up that which he cannot keep for that which he cannot lose.)
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