1 posted on
08/18/2009 6:27:30 AM PDT by
Nikas777
To: Nikas777
Northern and Western Europe was your basic old-timey Third World Hell Hole from about 535 AD to the end of the 100 Years War in the 1400s.
They didn't really need protection ~ they needed to be bathed!
Fortunately, and barely in time, Byzantine soapmakers arrived as refugees in Venice and other "hot spots" and civilization recovered ~ well, at least "chemistry" recovered. In the meantime French knights crushed the remaining Islamic outposts in Spain.
The rest is history.
2 posted on
08/18/2009 6:32:24 AM PDT by
muawiyah
To: Nikas777
It bequeathed to the world an imperial system of government built upon a trained, civilian administration and tax system;The birth of the modern administrative state - so complex it is "Byzantine."
3 posted on
08/18/2009 6:35:18 AM PDT by
frithguild
(Can I drill your head now?)
To: Nikas777
Byzantium was still a magical place in Napoleon’s time. I understand he proposed to make the City the capital of his world empire.
4 posted on
08/18/2009 6:42:32 AM PDT by
RobbyS
(ECCE HOMO!)
To: Nikas777
Readers interested in the soundness of money a problem that has been around as long as there has been money, it seems will take note of the lasting value that the Byzantine gold coin, known as the bezant in the West, famously retained among traders for centuries. This reputation for value remained even after a devaluation in the 11th century. In the 6th century, a Byzantine merchant noted that there is another mark of power among the Romans, which God has given them, I mean that every nation conducts its commerce with their nomisma [gold coin], which is acceptable in every place from one end of the earth to the other
In no other nations does such a thing exist. Byzantium / Hagia Sophia ping!
6 posted on
08/18/2009 6:59:33 AM PDT by
Alex Murphy
("I always longed for repose and quiet" - John Calvin)
To: Nikas777
9 posted on
08/18/2009 8:09:18 AM PDT by
Skooz
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To: Nikas777
13 posted on
08/18/2009 12:24:59 PM PDT by
Mike Fieschko
(et numquam abrogatam)
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22 posted on
08/20/2009 6:44:17 PM PDT by
SunkenCiv
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23 posted on
08/20/2009 6:45:12 PM PDT by
SunkenCiv
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24 posted on
08/20/2009 6:51:03 PM PDT by
SunkenCiv
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
To: Nikas777; SunkenCiv
Thanks for the post. I've been fascinated with the Byzantine world for a long time. It's the classic lost world that at one time was so powerful and influential. I suspect that much of the learning moderns are so anxious to claim came from the Muslims actually came from the Byzantines.
I'm anxious to read this. Most of what I've read is a fairly dry political history of the major rulers. It sounds like the author brings that old world back to life and puts it in the context of its time.
34 posted on
08/21/2009 11:17:15 AM PDT by
colorado tanker
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