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Did Jesus Reveal to us the name of the Anti-Christ?

Posted on 07/28/2009 9:36:23 PM PDT by Blogger

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXMAnlMmEPw


TOPICS: Theology
KEYWORDS: antichrist; bibleprophecy; conspiracytheories; crackpots; eschatology; holybible; jesus; lgfhatesamerica; obama; satan; scriptures; tinfoilhat
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To: bdeaner
The Book of Revelation does not have predictive value in the way premillenialists claim it does. Its predictions have already come to pass, when God judged Israel for their rejection of the Messiah, so that He was made to completely and finally break from them and their rebellious ways. Consequently, it is the Church which has come to replace Israel as the chosen people
NO. It has not. Read Romans 9-12. We have not replaced them. We have been grafted in. Read Zechariah 12-14. They will return.
141 posted on 07/29/2009 9:56:17 AM PDT by Blogger
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To: UriÂ’el-2012; Marysecretary
G-d who created the universe resides in a piece of matzoh.

This statement suggests to me that you probably do not have much background or understanding of Catholic theology regarding the Eucharist, or else it is a purposeful attempt at creating a straw man argument, or simply mockery. That's not what we believe.

There are at least eight ways in which Catholics speak of Christ being somewhere present:

- He is present in the Church when it prays, since it is Christ who prays for us and in us, and to whom we pray as to our God. This is the sense in which we believe that where two or three are gathered together in Christ's name, he is there in the midst of them.

- He is present in the Church when it performs its works of mercy, not only because we do to Christ whatever good we do to his brethren, but also because it is Christ, performing these works through the Church, who continually assists the faithful with his divine love.

- He is present in the Church in its pilgrimage of struggle to reach the harbor of eternal life, since it is he who through faith dwells in our hearts and, through the Holy Spirit, whom he gives, pours his love into our hearts.

- He is present in the Church as it preaches his Gospel, since the Gospel which the Church proclaims is the word of God. It is preached in his name, by his authority, and with the assistance of his grace.

- He is present in the Church as it governs the people of God, since the sacred power inherent in the Mystical Body comes from him. As shepherd of shepherds he is present in the pastors who exercise the power conferred on them as successors of the apostles.

- He is present in the Church when it offers in his name the Sacrifice of the Mass, and he is present to the Church whenever it administers the sacraments.

Christ is present in all these ways because he is active in our regard, and his influence is experienced by those to whom he is present.

- He is present uniquely, however, in the Real Presence – a presence that is different from all the foregoing. It is the physical presence of Christ in our midst, no less truly than he is now present at the right hand of his Father. Consequently "this presence is called real – by which it is not intended to exclude all other types of presence as if they could not be 'real' too, but because it is presence in the fullest sense. It is a substantial presence of which Christ, the God-man, is wholly and entirely present." If we could make a graphic comparison, there is as much difference between Christ's presence in the Blessed Sacrament and his presence elsewhere on earth as there was between his presence among his disciples when he appeared to them on Easter Sunday night and his presence before and after the appearance.

If you are sincerely interested in understanding the history of doctrines on the Eucharist, both inside and outside of Catholicism, the best resource is undoubtably Hidden Manna by James O'Connor.

At least this will give you an understanding of the Catholic Church's theology of the Eucharist on its on terms. If you want to engage in apologetics from the perspective of your own faith, which I'm sure you feel is important for you to do, knowing what Catholics really believe about the Eucharist will prevent you from just debating a straw man. You'll be able to critically engaging the Church on its own terms. And who knows, maybe you might decide the Catholic Church is right after all.
142 posted on 07/29/2009 10:00:17 AM PDT by bdeaner
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To: LukeL
You ever read Joel Rosenberg's series.

That guy is spooky.

143 posted on 07/29/2009 10:02:28 AM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: bdeaner
Consequently, it is the Church which has come to replace Israel as the chosen people.


You might want to ask the Ru'ach HaKodesh to illuminate Romans 11.

Very specifically: Romans 11 where Paul discusses who is grafted into whom.

NAsbU Romans 11:17 But if some of the branches were broken off,
and you, being a wild olive, were grafted in among them
and became partaker with them of the rich root of the olive tree,


NAsbU Romans 11:19 You will say then, "Branches were broken off
so that I might be grafted in."

Paul warns against the pride of a Gentile follower of Yah'shua.

NAsbU Romans 11:22 Behold then the kindness and severity of God;
to those who fell, severity, but to you, God's kindness,
if you continue in His kindness; otherwise you also will be cut off.

NAsbU Romans 11:23 And they also, if they do not continue in their unbelief,
will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again.

A Jew who comes to know the Jewish Messiah for their salvation
does not become a Christian,
They become a "called out one", a member of the Ekklesia.
They become a Messianic Jew.
The L-rd's name ( SHEM ) is not je-zeus;
it is Yah'shua ( YHvH is my salvation )


NAsbU Romans 10:13 for "WHOEVER WILL CALL ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED."

Which is why you must call on His Name for salvation.
See Exod. 15:2; 2 Sam. 23:5; Job 19:25 Ps. 18:2; 19:14; 62:1, 7; 118:14 Isa. 12:2; Isa 49:6; Isa 54:8
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
144 posted on 07/29/2009 10:25:14 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: bdeaner

Thanks, bdeaner.


145 posted on 07/29/2009 11:08:11 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: Alex Murphy

It really IS amazing though.


146 posted on 07/29/2009 11:33:20 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: Marysecretary

Thank you.


147 posted on 07/29/2009 12:30:00 PM PDT by bdeaner
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To: Marysecretary
It really IS amazing though.

But the logic presented is faulty. The argument follows this unconnected chain:

1) Give Luke 10 verse about Lucifer being cast out of heaven ["as lightning falling from the heavens"].
2) Make the unsupported assertion that Jesus' words recorded were actually spoken in Aramaic.
3) Make the unsupported assertion that Aramaic is really Hebrew
4) Provide the Hebrew (not Aramaic, not Greek) pronunciation of one word out of the sentence (lightning).
5) Move to Isaiah 14 verse about Lucifer aspiring to reign in heaven ["ascend above the heights of the clouds"].
6) Provide the Hebrew pronunciation for one word out of the sentence (heights)
7) Provide the Hebrew pronunciation for a grammar conjunction, but without offering a reason/cause (note: conjunction not found or used in the verse)
8) String together the Hebrew word from the first verse, the unused conjunction, and the Hebrew word from the second verse.
9) Justify the strung-together phrase by claiming it's how a modern day Rabbi (not an OT or a NT rabbi) would read Luke 10 in Hebrew.

148 posted on 07/29/2009 12:33:21 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("I always longed for repose and quiet" - John Calvin)
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To: Marysecretary
Another link to Luke 10:18
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

149 posted on 07/29/2009 1:33:03 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

That’s amazing stuff. Be interesting to see how all this plays out.


150 posted on 07/29/2009 2:00:38 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012
Isn't it interesting that members of the Roman church believe that the God who created the universe resides in a piece of matzoh.

That does not however describe the teachings of the Catholic Church.

However thy reject the Feast Day that He re-celebrated with this matzoh and reject His command to remember this Feast Day.

Such is your own personal interpretation of Scripture.

151 posted on 07/29/2009 2:38:21 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012
The Lord's name ( SHEM ) is not je-zeus;

LOL. No. It isn't. The Lord's name is Jesus.

it is Yah'shua ( YHvH is my salvation )

Yah'shua, Joshua, Jisu, Yesu, YaeSu Nim, Isa, Jesus, are all legitimate renderings of our Lord's name in various languages.

152 posted on 07/29/2009 2:44:14 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Quix

BTTT


153 posted on 07/29/2009 3:15:07 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: mnehring

Think in Aramaic.


154 posted on 07/29/2009 3:58:06 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Blogger

LOL, well now we know why he doesn’t have a birth certificate! Just kidding. Sorry honeys, the Anti-Christ is supposed to be a total con-man, and we’ve seen through Barry since day one. Also, in Revelation there is a Dragon, a Beast, and a False Prophet. Much too complicated for someone who has to read a teleprompter to give a speech.


155 posted on 07/29/2009 5:38:33 PM PDT by huldah1776 ( Worthy is the Lamb)
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To: Aria

Some think it’s Prince William.

www.grailcode.net

There’s a conspiracy for everyone on that page.


156 posted on 07/29/2009 5:45:52 PM PDT by kalee (01/20/13 The end of an error.... Obama even worse than Carter.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012
Strong's Hebrew Numbers with meanings
<01300> qr'B' baraq (140c)
Meaning: lightning
Origin: from 1299
Usage: flash like lightning(1), flashing(1), gleaming(2), glittering point(1),
lightning(9), lightning flashes(3), lightnings(4).

<01116> hm'B' bamah (119a)
Meaning: a high place
Origin: of unc. der.
Usage: heights(3), high place(19), high places(76), places(1), waves(1).
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

158 posted on 07/29/2009 7:28:47 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Marysecretary

YUP.


159 posted on 07/29/2009 7:31:20 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Joya

AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!


160 posted on 07/29/2009 7:31:51 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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