Sarah Palin Wants Creationism Taught In Schools

Dvorak Uncensored ^ | August 29, 2008 | KD Martin

[e.Shubee]

Republican vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin wants creationism taught in science classes.

In a 2006 gubernatorial debate, the soon-to-be governor of Alaska said of evolution and creation education, "Teach both. You know, don't be afraid of education. Healthy debate is so important, and it's so valuable in our schools. I am a proponent of teaching both."

[e.Shubee]

Physicists already teach creationism. They call it the Big Bang. For example, please consider this lecture by Stephen Hawking where the professor says, "The universe can spontaneously create itself out of nothing."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjBIsp8mS-c

[Ted]

Ummmmm, OK.

[aruanan]

Sarah Palin Wants Creationism Taught In Schools

And Barack Obama wants Marxism implemented in the United States. Hmmm, given the foothold Marxists have made already, which is a greater threat to the well-being of the nation?

[ClearCase_guy]

It's a competition of worldviews. Secular Humanism is a worldview which is currently taught in government schools to the exclusion of all other worldviews. But in fact, there is a competing worldview which is more widely accepted than secular humanism: Creationism.

But there's no need to settle on just one and to teach that one exclusively. Letting children know that there are multiple world views is a good thing. Teach both. The only people who will be upset are the secular humanists who have enjoyed their decades-long monopoly.

[e.Shubee]

Secular Humanism is a worldview which is currently taught in government schools to the exclusion of all other worldviews.

The medieval Christian church and some Christian denominations are infamous for not tolerating opposing points of view. Have you ever heard of the inquisition? That same censorious spirit exists today in so-called Christian churches. See, Threats, Intimidation and the Kingdom of God for example.

[ClearCase_guy]

That same censorious spirit exists today in so-called Christian churches.

But do those censorious churches use MY tax dollars to carry out their nefarious schemes? I am forced to fund a worldview with which I disagree. I would at least like to see that view get some competition.

[e.Shubee]

And Barack Obama wants Marxism implemented in the United States.

The book of Acts has two explicit passages depicting the very communistic nature of the early Christian community:

"All the believers were together and had everything in common. Selling their possessions and goods, they gave to anyone as he had need." Acts 2:44-45.

"There were no needy persons among them. For from time to time those who owned lands or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales and put it at the apostles' feet, and it was distributed to anyone as he had need. Joseph, a Levite from Cyprus, whom the apostles called Barnabas (which means Son of Encouragement), sold a field he owned and brought the money and put it at the apostles' feet." Acts 4:34-37.

As I see it, Democrats believe that everyone should pay taxes to contribute to the public good (Romans 13) whereas the Republicans believe in creating a slave class to serve the rich and powerful (Revelation 18).

[aruanan]

The book of Acts has two explicit passages depicting the very communistic nature of the early Christian community:

It was a community entered in through free will. It's an example of freedom of association protected by the Constitution. It wasn't a government imposed on the many by the few. As typical of leftists, they try to impose by force that which has benefits only if arising through mutual agreement and cooperation. It's the difference between the Amish and the Great Leap Forward.

[e.Shubee]

But do those censorious churches use MY tax dollars to carry out their nefarious schemes?

In a sense, yes, because all churches are subsidized in that they don't have to pay taxes.

I am forced to fund a worldview with which I disagree. I would at least like to see that view get some competition.

Running to a court to try to force the teaching of creationism in secular institutions is not the Christian way.

[Admin Moderator]

... then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less.

[Between the Lines]

What Sarah Palin believes should or should not be taught in schools is moot as to her qualifications for national public office.

While views on school curricula are a valid argument for a local or state office that has control over what is taught, the federal government has no such authority.

[Alex Murphy]

... then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less.

The thread's about Sarah Palin, not Michael Palin :P

[Admin Moderator]

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[Between the Lines]

The book of Acts has two explicit passages depicting the very communistic nature of the early Christian community:

You might want to quit cherry picking verses that support your view and read the entire book of Acts.

Acts 5 - 1 But a man named Ananias, with his wife Sapphira, sold a piece of property, 2 and kept back some of the price for himself, with his wife's full knowledge, and bringing a portion of it, he laid it at the apostles' feet.

3 But Peter said, "Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit and to keep back some of the price of the land?

4 "While it remained unsold, did it not remain your own? And after it was sold, was it not under your control? Why is it that you have conceived this deed in your heart? You have not lied to men but to God."

Peter is explaining to Ananias that he could have kept whatever portion of his money that he wanted to, it was his own. But instead Ananias had lied about keeping a portion of the money.

Ananias could have kept his land and his money. If this were a communistic society Ananias sin would have been not presenting all of the money, but instead his sin was misrepresenting what portion he had actually given.

[Religion Moderator]

[Gamecock]

That’s got to hurt.

[Religion Moderator]

Yep, suicide by mod.

[wolf78]

It's a competition of worldviews. Secular Humanism is a worldview which is currently taught in government schools to the exclusion of all other worldviews. But in fact, there is a competing worldview which is more widely accepted than secular humanism: Creationism.

But there's no need to settle on just one and to teach that one exclusively. Letting children know that there are multiple world views is a good thing. Teach both. The only people who will be upset are the secular humanists who have enjoyed their decades-long monopoly.

Correct. Only problem I have with the stament is that creationism should never be taught in science classes. Science is about the how and religion is about the why. Science doesn't care about the why. E.g. the theory of evolution predicts how lifeforms evolve through mutation. It is an important tool that brought us e.g. flu vaccinations and has saved many a granny. It should never be used to try to disprove god, because it cannot answer that question. Whether the laws of physics are coincidence or design doesn't matter. They work the same either way.

To have scientifically literate workforce, you must be able to make - and teach - the distinction between science and religion. So don't do it in science class. Create a separate "philosophy and ethics" course, if that's what it takes to navigate around the separation of church and state.

[valkyry1]

I would be happy if they just taught TOE in its total. That is to illustrate all the flaws and limitations of the theory, along with all of the fraud, fabrication, misleading reconstructions, misleading images, and flowcharts etc. that have been used to advance the theory in this field of study.

There is no need to bring creationism into the science class for toe to fall flat on its face. All that is needed is a closer look at ‘the evidence’ and the bios of the men who put forward the evidences.

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