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Is This Joseph Smith?
Daily Herald ^ | March 23, 2008 | Cody Clark

Posted on 03/24/2008 7:36:42 AM PDT by Alex Murphy

At least one version of an e-mail that's been spreading like wildfire in recent days says it this way: "Check this picture out. It has just been released by the RLDS church as being an authentic picture of the prophet Joseph Smith."

The message includes a photograph that may or may not be a scan of a historical image captured by early photographic technology of the founder and first president of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

 

LDS Church publicists released a short statement on Wednesday saying that church officials can neither confirm nor deny the authenticity of the photo. Some versions of the e-mail apparently attest that LDS Church historians have the original image in their possession and have either certified, or are in the process of certifying, that it is real. According to the church's statement, "These claims are not true."

 

There is, however, a comprehensive investigation of the photo under way. Richard N. Holzapfel, a professor of church history at Brigham Young University, said that the Internet photo is a reproduction of a daguerreotype, or early photograph, owned by the Community of Christ (formerly known as the Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter

Day Saints), and that the Community of Christ has been attempting for several years to verify whether or not the person pictured is Smith.

(The Community of Christ, which, like the LDS Church, traces its origin to Joseph Smith, was formally established in 1860 under the prophetic leadership of Smith's son, Joseph Smith III.)

"I saw it for the first time in 1995 or '96," Holzapfel said, adding that he's been asked about the photo many times. "I've answered maybe 250 e-mails before last week. I've probably had more than that in the last 10 to 12 days."

Holzapfel said that Community of Christ archivist Ron Romig has discussed the daguerreotype in a variety of scholarly settings, but that Community of Christ officials have tried to minimize its circulation because its origin is still in question.

That hasn't stopped people from speculating, which accounts for the popularity of the e-mail. Provo resident Christopher Bigelow, co-author of "Mormonism for Dummies," said via e-mail that he finds the photo "much more interesting and human" than the "Disneyfied" Smith most often depicted in paintings and films and would be pleased if it's authentic: "This photo really speaks to my imagination."

On the other hand, Bigelow has his doubts. "If I had to place a bet," he said, "I would wager that it is not an actual photo of Joseph Smith, but I hope to be pleasantly surprised."

Unraveling the mystery

It could be years -- or never -- before the matter is settled conclusively. "We'll never be able to prove it 100 percent," Holzapfel said, "because the image doesn't have inscribed on it, 'Taken on this date, by this photographer, this is Joseph Smith, I swear it is.' "

There are a number of things, however, that could indicate whether or not the image is genuine -- including one factor that argues rather loudly against it. Holzapfel said that researchers have already verified that the plate containing the daguerreotype was manufactured after the time of Smith's death in 1844.

That doesn't prove that the individual pictured is not Joseph Smith, Holzapfel said -- only that the existing daguerreotype was created after Smith's death. It could, said Holzapfel, be a copy of the original made using the same process.

Daguerreotyping was new technology in the final years of Smith's life -- it was first introduced in France in 1839 and became popular in the United States later that year. Holzapfel said that documents from the era indicate that there would have been daguerreotypists already in business on the east coast, for example, at the time of Smith's well-known visit to Washington, D.C., to meet with then U.S. president Martin Van Buren.

It's also known, Holzapfel said, that a Latter-day Saint daguerreotypist named Lucian Foster personally met Smith in Nauvoo in 1844, just months prior to the date of Smith's assassination by a mob at Carthage, Ill., on June 27, 1844. Problematically, documents from the period indicate that Foster did not begin to advertise his services after moving to Nauvoo from New York until several weeks after Smith's death.

Other clues to the image's authenticity could come from an analysis of the clothing worn by the individual pictured, and from attempts to correlate the subject's physical features with what is known of Smith's appearance.

Bigelow referred to an article printed in the LDS Church's New Era magazine in December 2005 titled, "What Did Joseph Smith Really Look Like?" (The article can be read online at lds.org.) "I'm not sure this photo resembles Joseph enough to remove all doubt," Bigelow said. "The man in the photo seems a bit more thin-chested, large-handed and darker-haired than descriptions of Joseph Smith, although the large, intense eyes could possibly fit Joseph's description."

Holzapfel said that he thinks the person pictured is not as physically robust as Smith in his years in Nauvoo, but that the image could date from late 1839, since earlier that year a haggard Smith had been released after several months' confinement in Liberty Jail and other prisons in Missouri.

"People always ask me, 'Do you think it looks like him?' " Holzapfel said. "It doesn't matter what I think. We've all created an image of Joseph Smith in our minds.

"If I saw a real one, I probably wouldn't think it was him."


TOPICS: History; Other Christian; Other non-Christian
KEYWORDS: josephsmith; lds; ldschurch; mormon
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1 posted on 03/24/2008 7:36:43 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: Alex Murphy

If RLDS wanted to promote a photo as being of Joe Smith, they should have chosen a photo of a guy with cheekbones, as portrayed in the drawing of Smith.


2 posted on 03/24/2008 7:48:57 AM PDT by Labour-Watch (www.labour-watch.com)
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To: Alex Murphy

And if it is, it should rate a “that’s nice” comment.


3 posted on 03/24/2008 7:49:56 AM PDT by bcsco (To heck with a third party. We need a second one....)
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To: Alex Murphy

Where are the horns?


4 posted on 03/24/2008 7:55:58 AM PDT by joebuck (Finitum non capax infinitum!)
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To: Alex Murphy

BTTT


5 posted on 03/24/2008 8:25:50 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Alex Murphy; Gamecock; P-Marlowe; xzins; Revelation 911; blue-duncan; Buggman; Dr. Eckleburg
We've all created an image of Joseph Smith in our minds.

Oh. My.

6 posted on 03/24/2008 8:45:26 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (When life gives you lemons...don't forget the vodka...)
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To: Corin Stormhands
Joseph Smith Jr Daguerreotype (1844)

Photobucket

From church archives

7 posted on 03/24/2008 9:42:47 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (An "Inconvenient Truth".....Save the Earth... it's the only planet with chocolate.)
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To: Alex Murphy

The picture survives, but JS is probably burning right now.


8 posted on 03/24/2008 1:57:40 PM PDT by fishtank (Fenced BORDERS, English LANGUAGE, Patriotic CULTURE: A good plan.)
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To: greyfoxx39
That's not the Daguerreotype that was provided by the Church archives. This is. You had the link right, but not the image. What you sent looks like an artists rendition.

The image at the top of this thread is likely a son or a brother. The plate is was created on is dated after the death of Joseph Smith.

9 posted on 03/24/2008 3:57:14 PM PDT by sevenbak (Shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness. - 2 Timothy 2:16)
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To: sevenbak

Did you post a truer picture? Those images were the ones my search brought up that didn’t seem to be paintings.


10 posted on 03/24/2008 4:14:38 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (An "Inconvenient Truth".....Save the Earth... it's the only planet with chocolate.)
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To: greyfoxx39

It came right off the link you sent, from ABC news. I thought it was odd that the link you provided came with a different pic than the one you posted.


11 posted on 03/24/2008 4:18:18 PM PDT by sevenbak (Shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness. - 2 Timothy 2:16)
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To: greyfoxx39

Definitely images of Joseph Smith previously show a more diamond chinned man than in the photograph. I would look at photos of his sons and compare them side by side. The man in the picture is in his early 30s, tops...


12 posted on 03/24/2008 4:19:16 PM PDT by FUMETTI (Barack Obama's supporters are mindless sheep)
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To: greyfoxx39

Was screwing the wives of his associates merely a cover for being gay? If I was a member of the Mormon church, I’d choose a different depiction.


13 posted on 03/24/2008 4:20:16 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: Alex Murphy

Is that a bottle of Guinness in his hands?


14 posted on 03/24/2008 4:34:06 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: rabidralph

Sure looks like a bottle of something, doesn’t it?


15 posted on 03/24/2008 5:18:48 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (An "Inconvenient Truth".....Save the Earth... it's the only planet with chocolate.)
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To: Alex Murphy

Well, I heard he was supposed to have had very arresting eyes—no, wait, that was Muhammad.


16 posted on 03/24/2008 5:20:07 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: greyfoxx39
That is not any sort of photographic likeness.
17 posted on 03/24/2008 5:21:17 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: sevenbak

Wow, he even has a Christopher Walken hairdo.


18 posted on 03/24/2008 5:22:11 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: sevenbak
Go to this link...there are comparisons of a Smith death mask.

Here

19 posted on 03/24/2008 5:26:12 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (An "Inconvenient Truth".....Save the Earth... it's the only planet with chocolate.)
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To: aruanan

See #17


20 posted on 03/24/2008 5:27:26 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (An "Inconvenient Truth".....Save the Earth... it's the only planet with chocolate.)
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