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L’Osservatore Romano Breaks Five Year Silence on Coredemption [Catholic Caucus]
AirMaria.com ^ | 8/4/2007 | Fra Roderic

Posted on 08/06/2007 6:50:34 AM PDT by Friar Roderic Mary

Ave Maria!

In the Tuesday-Wednesday, July 30-31 Italian Edition of the L'Osservatore Romano on page 4 an article appeared called Enamored of The Virgin by Fr. Giovanni Velocci which gave a strong promotion of Marian Coredemption and Mediation of all Graces. This breaks a five year silence on the issue and ... is so resoundingly positive.

Based on St. Alphnoses de Ligouri's The Glories of Mary Fr. Velocci argues on a thomistic basis relating and conjoining Mary's participation in the redemption to her Divine Maternity and specifically as Mother of the Redeemer. Here are my rough translations of excerpts from the Italian:

In his treatment Liguori develops two prerogatives above all, which he uses as a foundation of his mariology: divine maternity and the universal mediation. They are not placed on separate paths, but they are seen as closely interconnected, for they recall and compenetrate each other: the first is ordained to the second, and the second finds in the first its ontological foundation.

From this linkage of Divine Maternity to mediation in general he then specifies the type of mediation and how it relates to the very reason for the Incarnation.

Mary was the chosen Mother of God by being Coredemptrix and Mediatrix; one and the same divine decree predestined her to this twofold mission. St. Alphonses considered the divine maternity in the light of the redemption; in the study of the reason of the incarnation he follows the thomistic thesis according to which, "if man had not sinned, God would not have been incarnated"; therefore the ultimate reason of the incarnation was the redemption of humanity. Mary became Mother of a God who made himself man in order to be redeemer and for expiating the sins of the world;


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TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Theology
KEYWORDS: coredemption; mary; mediation; virgin

1 posted on 08/06/2007 6:50:41 AM PDT by Friar Roderic Mary
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To: Friar Roderic Mary; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; ...

2 posted on 08/06/2007 6:57:26 AM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: Friar Roderic Mary

Friar Roderic Mary,

This looks like an interesting article (though I admit I’ve only skimmed it so far). You may want to have the Religion Moderator put a [Catholic Caucus] designation on it; that’s your call.

Thanks!


3 posted on 08/06/2007 6:59:23 AM PDT by GCC Catholic (Sour grapes make terrible whine.)
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To: NYer; Friar Roderic Mary

What I learn from the Blessed Virgin is similar to what I can achieve the way St. Pete did.

We can do the most wonderful things when we say “Yes!” to God.

The Virgin Mary gave birth to God, Our Jesus Christ; and, St. Pete walked on water. But it’s not simple miracles as these that make these events and people wondrous. It’s the conversion of hearts that are the most spectacular. Where the birth of Christ and St. Pete’s water walk are things of the past, the conversion of hearts have not stopped.


4 posted on 08/06/2007 7:14:34 AM PDT by SaltyJoe ("Social Justice" for the Unborn Child)
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To: GCC Catholic; Alex Murphy; Ottofire; Dr. Eckleburg; xzins; P-Marlowe
You may want to have the Religion Moderator put a [Catholic Caucus] designation on it; that’s your call.

Afraid of a little discusssion?

5 posted on 08/06/2007 7:42:19 AM PDT by Gamecock
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To: Gamecock; Friar Roderic Mary
Not my article. Friar Roderick Mary is a fairly new FReeper, and I'm reminding him of his options. It's his choice whether or not to ping the RM to request a Caucus designation.

Afraid of a little discusssion?

If non-Catholic posters on previous threads (Marian threads tend to be usual candidates) had kept solely to discussion, we wouldn't have Caucus designations.

6 posted on 08/06/2007 7:48:49 AM PDT by GCC Catholic (Sour grapes make terrible whine.)
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To: Friar Roderic Mary; GCC Catholic
Friar Roderic Mary, I have added the caucus protection to the header of the thread so that it will be treated as if a discussion behind the closed doors of a church and not as if a rowdy town square debate.

If you'd rather it be an open thread, please let me know.

7 posted on 08/06/2007 7:53:02 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Friar Roderic Mary

Until the Vatican comes out with the Coredemptrix title, anyone can say anything.


8 posted on 08/06/2007 8:24:01 AM PDT by netmilsmom (To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time .)
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To: Friar Roderic Mary
Ave Maria!

Friar Roderic Mary,

One thing I love about Thomists is that we agree with them on Our Lady's role as Mediatrix of all graces and Coredemptrix of the human race. In the end, all Catholics (Thomists, Scotists--like me, and any others) end up at Calvary and see the Mother of Jesus standing in union with Her Son as Coredemptrix with, and subordinate to Christ our Redeemer.

I'll take a Thomist over a modernist any day of the week. Thank God for St. Thomas Aquinas! Thank God that L'Osservatore Romano is willing to keep the discussion alive amongst theologians.

Pax tecum.

9 posted on 08/06/2007 9:41:01 AM PDT by fr maximilian mary ("Imitate Jesus, love Mary as your Mother." Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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