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1 posted on 04/13/2007 6:55:04 AM PDT by Frank Sheed
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US Catholic Church Ping on expected changes to the Episcopate...


2 posted on 04/13/2007 6:57:04 AM PDT by Frank Sheed (Dead Ráibéad)
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Comments?

IMO there's little worth commenting on, at least not until we see who he actually appoints. This one line in the article may be prescient, however:

So far, they have found an easier hand - and someone who has not made the United States much of a priority.

3 posted on 04/13/2007 6:58:23 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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Yet America's turn may be coming. At the top of the list is a looming generational shift among the nation's bishops, whose decisions at the local level greatly affect Catholics in the pews and can carry national weight. For instance, church leaders recently closed parishes in Boston and New York, while the St. Louis archbishop has clashed with a heavily Polish parish over control of its assets.

I think the author is simply repeating words he doesn't understand, like me singing a song in Polish.

And he uses "different than" instead of the correct "different from." I can't stand that.

5 posted on 04/13/2007 6:58:56 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("His mother said to the servants, 'Do whatever He tells you.' ")
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And now, News from the morality front:

Church vandalism continues to spread across Italy

Naples, Apr. 12, 2007 (CWNews.com) - Vandals continue to spray-paint slogans on Italian churches, with the latest graffiti appearing on a church in Naples.

The slogan “Bagnasco, Ratzinger: shame on you!” was spray-painted in red on the church of St. Eligius the Great. The reference was to Archbishop Angelo Bagnasco, the president of the Italian bishops’ conference, and Pope Benedict XVI (bio - news).

Similar slogans have appeared during the past 10 days on the doors and walls of parish churches and other Catholic institutions in Genoa, Bologna, and Turin. The vandalism is a reaction to the Italian hierarchy’s public opposition to a legislative proposal that would give legal recognition to same-sex unions.


10 posted on 04/13/2007 7:15:41 AM PDT by Frank Sheed (Dead Ráibéad)
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** a string of key bishop appointments and important decisions about the future of U.S. seminaries and bishops’ involvement in politics.**

Yes!


11 posted on 04/13/2007 7:23:24 AM PDT by Salvation (" With God all things are possible. ")
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`Many Americans were surprised - some happily, some disappointed - that he did not turn into the pit bull of dogma. He is taking a very pastoral approach, and I think people resonate very positively with that.''

This guy sounds like he's part of the problem.

I trust all you highly atuned Freepers picked up on the "dogma is incompatible with the pastoral approach" insinuation? Good. Because as we all know by know, insisting on theological clarity and doctrinal accuracy is inconsistent with teaching the faith, right? Right. Combating heresy is just not "pastoral".

In practice of course, dogma and pastoral care are complimentary not incompatible but a professor of church history at a Catholic college couldn't be expected to understand that. The Pope has in fact been very clear on dogma and just because he hasn't fried Mahony on a spit (yet) doesn't mean he's a wimp.

Men that aren't truly pastoral don't usually get the call to the See of Peter from the Holy Spirit.

55 posted on 04/13/2007 9:31:48 AM PDT by marshmallow
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Oldest Latin-rite archbishops:

Cardinal Maida of Detriot, 77.07 years
Cardinal Keeler of Baltimore, 76.11
Archbishop Kelly of Louisville, 75.75
Archbishop Lipscomb of Mobile, 75.56
Cardinal Egan of New York, 75.03

I’m not sure who the other 1-2 bishops the article refers to are. Archbishop Curtiss of Omaha is 74.83. None else are over 74. There are about three dozen archdiocese, so even six archbishops in one year is an awful lot. Three cardinals being replaced in one year would be pretty stunning: there are only seven archbishop cardinals, the others being from Boston, Los Angeles, Chicago and Philadelphia.

Cardinal Mahoney of Los Angeles is 71 years old. He was appointed bishop by Pope Paul VI way back in 1975, and promoted to archbishop in 1985.


65 posted on 04/13/2007 10:27:31 AM PDT by dangus
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Bishop Lennon not much of an improvement over the very liberal former Bishop Pilla here in C-Town.


67 posted on 04/13/2007 10:47:06 AM PDT by Cleveland Clopas
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Local "Catholic" college, St. Anselm, will be hosting pro-abortion Hillary speech.

This is the kind of garbage that needs to get hammered.

72 posted on 04/13/2007 11:07:12 AM PDT by Scarchin (+)
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and someone who has not made the United States much of a priority.

I think Pope Benedict has been concentrating on Europe because he is alarmed at what has happened to the Church in particular, and Christianity in general, on the Continent. That's why he's been pushing the 'faith and reason' idea. He sees Europe as trying to supplant faith with reason, and failing miserably.

93 posted on 04/13/2007 12:58:02 PM PDT by SuziQ
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I'm not eager to have the Pope involved in politics, because he's a socialist (as was the previous Pope). From his just-released book:

"Confronted with the abuse of economic power, with the cruelty of capitalism that degrades man into merchandise," Benedict writes, "we have begun to see more clearly the dangers of wealth and we understand in a new way what Jesus intended in warning us about wealth." In a chapter on the Good Samaritan, Benedict decries how the wealthy have "plundered" Africa and other parts of the developing world through colonialism.
http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/04/13/africa/pope.php

This reads like a radical socialist tract, blaming "capitalism" and "the wealthy" for societal problems.

95 posted on 04/13/2007 1:24:49 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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How about a pre-1962 Mass in every city of 50,000 people in America for starters? I’d even go with a 1962 Mass — and if even mentions the Motu Proprio I just might let out a banshee of a scream. First, let it be promulgated if it is ever going to happen. Then promote Cardinal Mahony to the Atlas Mountains in Algeria. Then do a de-Bugninizing of the Novus Ordo... Then...


107 posted on 04/13/2007 7:03:55 PM PDT by Siobhan (Putting human genes into animals and plants will result in our nations being destroyed by God.)
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** a major mark on American Catholicism with a string of key bishop appointments and important decisions about the future of U.S. seminaries and bishops’ involvement in politics.**

Woo-hoo! Continuing to pray for Pope Benedict!


250 posted on 04/30/2007 6:19:20 PM PDT by Salvation (" With God all things are possible. ")
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Yes. The morons who want to keep open old "ethnic" Churches in ghetto or yuppie neighborhoods that have only 18 people in the pews need to get a life.

If they really cared about their parishes, they would have stayed in their own neighborhoods.

Let the dead bury the dead. Its as true about parishes as it is about people.

272 posted on 04/30/2007 8:08:45 PM PDT by Clemenza (NO to Rudy in 2008! New York's Values are NOT America's Values! RUN FRED RUN!)
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People should worry more about God’s final judgement and less about what the Bishops are going to let them get away with in this life.


519 posted on 05/04/2007 6:18:07 AM PDT by G Larry (Only strict constructionists on the Supreme Court!)
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Pope Set to Make Mark on U.S. Church

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Graffiti sucks no matter who paints it.

664 posted on 05/04/2007 5:08:25 PM PDT by humblegunner (?)
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When is he going to visit my university?


982 posted on 05/06/2007 6:59:17 PM PDT by Silly (http://www.sarcasmoff.com)
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Pope's Words on Abortion Nudge, But Don't Shake U.S. Political Races

Thursday, May 10, 2007

 
WASHINGTON —  Pope Benedict XVI's agreement that Roman Catholic politicians in Mexico City who voted to legalize abortion should be denied the rite of Communion could have an effect on the 2008 presidential race in the United States.

The pontiff's comments put five of seven Catholic candidates at odds with their church.

 

1,293 posted on 05/10/2007 10:00:01 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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I'm not even a Catholic, and I admire Benny, just as I did JPII. I think Catholic institutions...churches, hospitals, schools, colleges...should be Catholic. If the liberals don't like it, let them join the Unitarians or Episcopaleans, and go to non-Catholic schools. It's absolutely ridiculous for pro-abortion and pro-gay forces to be able to dictate how Catholic institutions (great assetts to America, btw) are run. I hope he comes over and puts his foot down, and makes a big deal about it. I looke forward to the weeping and gnashing of teeth as the left (tools of the Devil himself, hmmm?) gets frogmarched out the door.
1,402 posted on 05/11/2007 6:04:21 PM PDT by DesScorp
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Why can’t the Pope send McHooney off to some far away island?


1,841 posted on 05/17/2007 10:42:24 AM PDT by red irish (Gods Children in the womb are to be loved too!)
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