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Pope Set to Make Mark on U.S. Church
Guardian Unlimited ^ | April 12, 2007 | ERIC GORSKI (AP Religion Writer)

Posted on 04/13/2007 6:54:57 AM PDT by Frank Sheed

Two years into his reign, Pope Benedict XVI is finally poised to make a major mark on American Catholicism with a string of key bishop appointments and important decisions about the future of U.S. seminaries and bishops' involvement in politics.

Benedict's election on April 19, 2005, shook liberals and comforted conservatives who expected a doctrinal hard-liner. So far, they have found an easier hand - and someone who has not made the United States much of a priority.

When Benedict has gained attention, it has mostly been on the world stage, focusing on the re-Christianization of Europe, Islam and mending relations with Orthodox Christians. He also has stressed universal themes of faith and reason.

``The last two years have been much quieter years as far as the papacy is concerned because you have a very different personality'' than John Paul II, said Monsignor Robert Wister, chairman of the church history department at Seton Hall University's School of Theology.

``Many Americans were surprised - some happily, some disappointed - that he did not turn into the pit bull of dogma. He is taking a very pastoral approach, and I think people resonate very positively with that.''

Yet America's turn may be coming. At the top of the list is a looming generational shift among the nation's bishops, whose decisions at the local level greatly affect Catholics in the pews and can carry national weight. For instance, church leaders recently closed parishes in Boston and New York, while the St. Louis archbishop has clashed with a heavily Polish parish over control of its assets.

Key appointments are expected in New York, Baltimore and Detroit, where cardinals have reached retirement age - 75. And retirements or appointments are likely in at least seven other archdioceses...

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


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To: Frank Sheed
FSSP is also offering concentrated one-week training sessions for priests to say the Tridentine Mass in Nebraska.

Well, if they're only going to say the Tridentine Mass in Nebraska, that won't affect me in the slightest.

121 posted on 04/14/2007 4:37:14 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("His mother said to the servants, 'Do whatever He tells you.' ")
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To: Cleveland Clopas

That’s just a pity.

I was really hoping things would change there.
If we were to move back, St. Albert the Great in North Royalton is about our only choice.

But I think we are serious about NC.


122 posted on 04/14/2007 6:41:52 AM PDT by netmilsmom (To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time.)
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To: wideawake

Thanks for counting/ re Mahoney. I will put up an ‘Advent calendar’ and start counting down. It cannot be soon enough.


123 posted on 04/14/2007 7:04:14 AM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: netmilsmom
If we were to move back, St. Albert the Great in North Royalton is about our only choice.

I have heard St. Albert's is a very good parish. Around us, all the parishes are still doing all the strange stuff Pilla implemented - - standing throughout the Mass, praying in the Orans position, ect...

124 posted on 04/14/2007 8:15:17 AM PDT by Cleveland Clopas
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To: ELS

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1816739/posts?page=108#108

Please see the movie...French ingenuity!


125 posted on 04/14/2007 8:26:32 AM PDT by Frank Sheed (Dead Ráibéad)
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To: Tax-chick

You should edit the local news rag here. Their “spell/grammar check” misses most of the mistakes.

You could at least have put a “smiley face,” Mrs. Tax! Elderly people have short attention spans. Besides that, they have short attention spans.

Frank


126 posted on 04/14/2007 8:31:30 AM PDT by Frank Sheed (Dead Ráibéad)
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To: ELS
We have got not one but TWO rolling hydraulic car jacks (courtesy of my late father in law who worked on antique cars) that will each lift several thousand pounds. I mean, these things are HUGE.

We would be more than happy to lend them to the church to move the altar back!

127 posted on 04/14/2007 10:43:45 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: Frank Sheed

I was half-serious :-|. Nobody’s going to expect me to travel to Freepin’ frozen Nebraska for the Tridentine Mass!

I wish I could get an editing job - then maybe I’d leave my FRiends to dangle modifiers and typso threw the tulips unmolested.

I hope the Pope issues this order soon, just because it will make you happy!


128 posted on 04/14/2007 10:56:31 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("His mother said to the servants, 'Do whatever He tells you.' ")
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To: sandyeggo
The tabernacle is simply gorgeous - it was hand carved of cedar wood and then covered in beaten gold.

It stands on its own altar at the head of the aisle on the decani side, just to the right of the altar steps and next to the confessional.

It would be a very easy matter to move it front and center.

129 posted on 04/14/2007 11:05:36 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: Cleveland Clopas

When visitors pray in the “orans” position or hold hands for the Our Father, people in our parish look at them funny!


130 posted on 04/14/2007 11:07:42 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: AnAmericanMother

I’d look at them funny right back. How RUDE!


131 posted on 04/14/2007 11:09:06 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("His mother said to the servants, 'Do whatever He tells you.' ")
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To: Frank Sheed

I saw it on the NLM blog site earlier this week. It is quite a creative metamorphosis!


132 posted on 04/14/2007 1:29:20 PM PDT by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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To: AnAmericanMother
OK, but there is a difference between being able to move the altar and it being easy to move the altar.
133 posted on 04/14/2007 1:32:17 PM PDT by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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To: Tax-chick; Frank Sheed
Una Voce America (UVA) Launches Priest Training Workshops
134 posted on 04/14/2007 1:34:19 PM PDT by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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To: AnAmericanMother

I had the good fortune to meet the new Archbishop of my Diocese, His Excellency Daniel DiNardo when he was the Coadjutor (or whatever we call it in the Catholic Church. I was singing at a funeral for a Basilian Priest and he attended, and introduced himself to the choir before the service started. I got a very good feeling from him... I liked him. He’s very personable, but he carries himself with authority at the same time.

Further, as an Anglican Use parishioner, he’s given signals that he welcomes us to the diocese, as opposed to his predecessor Joseph Fiorenzawoh, while perhaps not exactly supressed us, did not promote us either. He has a twin brother who is also a priest, and he appointed a Father as Pastor for us who has a twin brother who is a Priest as well, so we get two for one in a lot of ways. They look so cute standing in the Sanctuary together even though they’re almost seventy. They’re also from Australia, and the accent adds a bit of spice as well. They were Anglican priests for twenty five years before being received into the Roman Catholic Church twenty years ago, and His Excellency just had a reception for them. Interesting fellows. Fathers Bruce and David Noble. (Father, is that Father your brother? No, but my brother is a Father)


135 posted on 04/14/2007 1:52:59 PM PDT by ichabod1 ("Liberals read Karl Marx. Conservatives UNDERSTAND Karl Marx." Ronald Reagan)
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To: ichabod1

We had a Nigerian priest in Tulsa whose twin brother was also a priest: Father Paul and Father Peter.


136 posted on 04/14/2007 2:10:12 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("His mother said to the servants, 'Do whatever He tells you.' ")
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To: ELS; Frank Sheed

I wish them the best. It will make Frank Sheed so happy!


137 posted on 04/14/2007 2:12:17 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("His mother said to the servants, 'Do whatever He tells you.' ")
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To: Tax-chick
They don't mean any harm, it's just (a) nobody does that here; and (b) it's not in the rubrics and the Vatican has issued a statement repudiating it anyway.

But the reaction is like if you were over at the Latin Mass parish and didn't wear a head covering - they don't mean to be rude, but you stick out like a pork chop at a Bar Mitzvah.

138 posted on 04/14/2007 2:47:26 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: ELS
Well, this is very true.

But the attitude of my husband (and of a lot of other git 'er done types around here) is that if you can do it with whatever you have in your garage, it's easy.

139 posted on 04/14/2007 2:48:11 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: AnAmericanMother

I stick out like a (ahem, don’t think I like the pork chop image) sore thumb at St. Luke’s Evangelical Catholic Party Barn, with my Mysterious Moslem scarf and insistence on kneeling (and genuflecting before communion) in a long dress, but even our most loosie-goosie remnants of the Father Mulligan New-Age Years don’t ever act rudely.

I’m not a fan of hand-holding or hand-raising (at least during Mass - but I spread my hands symbolically in my lap :-), but if they’re so into the Vertical Dimension of Prayer, how could they even notice what others are doing?

(/rant off)


140 posted on 04/14/2007 2:51:44 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("His mother said to the servants, 'Do whatever He tells you.' ")
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