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Fear of 'Christocrats' -- Or How Christians Should Just shut Up
News By Us ^ | Sep 21, 2006 | Warner Todd Huston

Posted on 09/21/2006 5:56:01 AM PDT by Alex Murphy

As Muslims rage across the globe killing people for publishing cartoons and threatening religious leaders for reading the words of an historical figure, some people paradoxically seem to imagine a greater threat looms over the world.

Rabbi James Rudin is one of those people. He has even invented a word to describe them: “Christocrats”.

Like so many who have made a living raising strawmen to knock down, Rudin cannot see the world in which we live, but the one he wants to exist … the one that might more easily keep him flush.

Like Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton, men who still imagine we live in the era of Jim Crow, Rabbi Rudin, Director of the Interreligious Affairs Department of the ACJ (American Jewish Committee), imagines that we still live in an era of the Inquisition and that we are about to be overtaken by these “Christocrats”.

Sounds ominous. But, most stawmen do, don’t they?

The last time Rabbi Rudin was making the rounds he was denouncing the Movie “Passion of the Christ” as a one made solely to disparage Jews. On CNN, Rudin denounced the movie saying, “I saw the film twice. I’m very disappointed. I’m very angry. I’m disappointed because Mel Gibson could have made a thoroughly Christian ‘Passion’ play without beating up on Jews, vilifying my religion, my people, as he’s done.”

Now he is out hawking a book he entitled, "The Baptizing of America: The Religious Right’s Plans for the Rest of Us". This screed is a rather insidious attempt to inflame Jews and secularists against Christians exactly in an era where we all face Islamofascism, the biggest threat to civilization since WWII, and in an era where we should be coming together to face this threat.

Yet, even as one reads Rabbi Rudin’s book one finds little by way of substance and almost no real solutions other than to tell Christians to just shut up. Additionally, one cannot help but get the feeling that the good Rabbi is revealing his own hatreds for everything Christian. The whole tome feels like some personal vendetta.

In a recent interview, Rudin went out of his way to preface his words with the disclaimer that he didn’t mean “all Evangelicals”. On Buzzflash.com, Rudin said of the average Evangelical, “I’ve found that the overwhelming majority of Evangelical Christians are not committed to changing the basic relationship between church and state, and between government and religion.”

He also warned that his boogymen were not very numerous, but were merely “a small, but very potent group, who are driven to say it’s not just Christianity, but their form of Christianity that must be the legal, mandated, dominant form.” Rudin even claims that the men he fears the most, Francis A. Schaeffer, and John Rushdoony (the Rushdoony who died in 2001), are “men who are pretty much unknown to the general American public”.

This book, however, makes the fib to these disclaimers of a small, unnoticed cabal of Christian toughs because he ascribes all manner of outsized actions and successes to this “small, but very potent group” and inflates their power unduly. He sees Christian boogymen under his bed, in his closet, in his Courts and in Congress all controlled by people who most Americans have never heard of.

Rudin imagines that these “Christocrats” want to change the Constitution to “define exactly the kind of Christianity that is legally the mandated version” and worries that “even other Christians would become second class” citizens as a result.

Worse, Rudin feels that these “Christocrats” are just as vicious as any extremist Islamist might be.

Sadly, it seems Rudin views his enemy from afar and must not know very many of them. It would be interesting, for instance, to see Rudin address the fact that a great majority of his hated Evangelicals support Israel. But it is presumed he would explain that support away as a product of the “End Times” thinking that many anti-Christians so fear. In this theory, Christians only support Israel because a strong Israel will bring about the end of the world, a silly and ridiculous claim.

Rudin’s rant against Christians seems rather reminiscent of the wacko conspiracies that too many deluded people blame on Jews, doesn’t it? Can you say “Elders of Zion”? Apparently, Rudin does not see the irony in his own actions.

What Rudin rails against the most is the efforts by Christians to get politically involved—a trend that started in the late 70’s and early 80’s. Here Jerry Falwell’s “Moral Majority” comes in for special conspiracy theorizing. Rudin bemoans the lost days when Christians just shut up and voted without worrying about what really went on in Washington.

“Christian conservatives’ concern always was, get right with Jesus, get right with Christ, get right with God on a personal level. Yes, they voted. And they participated in elections. But they did not see political parties or political movements as a means of carrying out God’s will. God alone would determine that, and voting was a citizen’s duty. But the Christian conservatives didn’t look to the Democratic or Republican Party to deliver theological gifts or theological concerns or provide theological answers.”

So, now we see Rudin’s real problem. Christians are fine if they stay uninvolved in politics. He feels they should forget about that stuff and leave it to smarter men like himself, presumably. He cries foul at the “parallel media system of television, radio, magazines, newspapers, which reflect their point of view” that Christians have created, warns against the political action groups Christians have orgaized, moans about the money raised and gesticulates madly over the influence that this terrible religion has over Washington. Curiously, he doesn’t see any parallel with the many Jewish groups that do the very same things for his own religion, some of which he works for.

And one wonders why Rabbi Rudin thinks it is that Christians were called to a greater involvement in politics in the 1980’s, in the first place? It wasn’t a sudden movement lead by crazed but charismatic leaders who simply misled the public into invlvement, but a response to decades of an American political scene that had drifted further and further from the conservative and religious precepts that had been the mainstay of American political discourse for nearly two hundred years. It was a result of a large group of regular Americans that had had enough of the warping and tearing down of traditional Americanism. If this disgust with the extreme left in America had not existed no Jerry Falwell could have become the powerhouse he became for a short time. Falwell or no, American Christians have every right to try and stop the march to leftism that was invading their schools and their politics.

Amazingly, Rudin claims that Christians are un-American just as they became involved in the most American endeavor; political activity. He doesn’t accept that Christians have the very same right to advocate for their ideas and political needs as any other group and are not doing anything differently than the very organizations that Rudin works for.

All in all, it seems more like Rudin is engaging in wishful thinking and propagating the kind of anti-Christian rhetoric he has become famous for and not truthfully reading America’s Christian community. His book is a mere screed against Christians masquerading as cogent cultural and political analysis.

Rudin’s message is that he just wants Christians to shut up and go away and wants them to know that he feels they are not real Americans.


TOPICS: Mainline Protestant; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: ac; persecution
He also warned that his boogymen were not very numerous, but were merely “a small, but very potent group, who are driven to say it’s not just Christianity, but their form of Christianity that must be the legal, mandated, dominant form.” Rudin even claims that the men he fears the most, Francis A. Schaeffer, and John Rushdoony (the Rushdoony who died in 2001), are “men who are pretty much unknown to the general American public”.
1 posted on 09/21/2006 5:56:02 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: Alex Murphy
Number of people murded by Islamic Extremists since 2000?

10s of thousands.

Number murdered by Christan Fundementalists? As far as I know. ZERO.

2 posted on 09/21/2006 5:58:08 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Ann Coulter: "I love Freepers!" Told to Freeper eeevil Conservative)
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To: Alex Murphy

If there is ever a time in history we do not need this man (Rudin) now is the time.


3 posted on 09/21/2006 6:02:03 AM PDT by BipolarBob (I get homesick when I look up in the skies and see my home planet.)
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To: Alex Murphy
Francis A. Schaeffer died in 1984 and John Rushdoony died in 2001. Who are the Christocrats now?
4 posted on 09/21/2006 6:08:01 AM PDT by Talking_Mouse (wahhabi delenda est)
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To: Alex Murphy

Perhaps we should rename his book "The Elders of Calvary."


5 posted on 09/21/2006 7:04:01 AM PDT by Petrosius
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To: Gamecock; ksen; HarleyD; suzyq5558; Frumanchu; Dr. Eckleburg; keeper53; bygrace85; hope; ...
Rudin even claims that the men he fears the most, Francis A. Schaeffer, and John Rushdoony (the Rushdoony who died in 2001), are "men who are pretty much unknown to the general American public".

Francis A. Schaeffer ping!

6 posted on 09/21/2006 8:04:43 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (Colossians 2:6)
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To: Alex Murphy

Rushdoony ping back at ya.


7 posted on 09/21/2006 8:42:38 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Alex Murphy
Rudin even claims that the men he fears the most...

Those aren't the name he fears most.

IS JESUS CHRIST GOD?

8 posted on 09/21/2006 8:56:18 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; annalex; ...

http://newsbyus.com/more.php?id=5388_0_1_0_M


9 posted on 09/21/2006 10:55:38 AM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, geese, algae)
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To: MNJohnnie

At the risk of starting a flame war, I point out the nutcases who bomb abortion clinics.
There do exist Christian extremists, but in much smaller numbers than is claimed, Jack Chick, anyone? It's a game no one wins.


10 posted on 09/21/2006 11:14:37 AM PDT by PandaRosaMishima (she who tends the Nightunicorn)
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To: PandaRosaMishima

Ok, Christian Extremists have killed dozens? And we are suppose to be more worried about dozen killed then 10s of thousands according to this Rabbi?


11 posted on 09/21/2006 11:32:59 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Ann Coulter: "I love Freepers!" Told to Freeper eeevil Conservative)
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To: Coleus

This Christian will NOT shut up.


12 posted on 09/21/2006 12:58:51 PM PDT by milford421 (U.N. OUT OF U.S.)
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To: MNJohnnie
Don't forget the abortion clinic bombers and murderers of doctors.

And the small group of white supremicists who cover themselves in Christian evangelicalism. They do not compare with Muslim extremists, but they do exist.

13 posted on 09/21/2006 2:20:15 PM PDT by thomaswest (Just curious.)
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To: Alex Murphy

How in the world would Francis Schaeffer be considered a danger to anyone? I am Catholic, but it is my understanding that Francis Schaeffer left a legacy of concern for the poor and down trodden. That he truly embraced and lived the gospel he so loved to preach. That he was instrumental in bringing the issue of abortion to the forefront of evangelical churches. That he desired above all that followers of Christ live as disciples. That he challenged believers to put their faith into action.

Oh wait I see the danger now. Yep a non complacent, non sluggish Christianity that no longer rests on its laurels. A Christianity that works to eliminate both the cause and effect of sin. A faith that is not afraid to ruffle feathers or to challenge both Christian and non Christian is a very radical, dangerous idea. Thanks be to God.


14 posted on 09/21/2006 2:46:10 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: PandaRosaMishima
Most of these extremists are part of the Christian Identity Movement. There is a lot of good information on the theology of CIM available on the web. But some highlights of their beliefs are: 1. Belief that white Europeans and Americans are the true descendants of the tribes of Israel. 2. That those who call themselves Jews are actually descendants of Cain or the result of Eve mating with the serpent (satan) I assume they mean the devil took human form. 3. That the laws and proscriptions of the OT must be followed.

The followers of CIM are usually. Anti-Semitic, White Supremacists ( though some believe that other races should simply live separate from whites and do not endorse violence against them.) They think the American government is an agent of worldwide Zionists and refer to it as ZOG. Zionist Occupied Government. The crimes committed by CIM members include the shooting of radio host Alan Berg. However many CIM followers are not violent and do not endorse the violence of others. In some instances they have been victims of over zealous actions of the government agencies who think their very faith is a danger. Randy Weaver is a good example of this.
15 posted on 09/21/2006 2:59:28 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: lastchance

My fear is that these nasty little groups may well be the seeds of something as destructive as the Taliban, as the Islamofacists. I mean, you listen to some of these nutcases; and the only thing they are really objecting to is the fact that Muslims, not hyperChristians, are doing the judging. Listen to one after the other, it's too close to comfort for me.
All protection be given to Pope Benedict.


16 posted on 09/21/2006 6:53:16 PM PDT by PandaRosaMishima (she who tends the Nightunicorn)
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To: Alex Murphy; .30Carbine; Alamo-Girl; Cindy; eeevil conservative; NYer; trussell; tutstar; ...

"Like so many who have made a living raising strawmen to knock down, Rudin cannot see the world in which we live, but the one he wants to exist … the one that might more easily keep him flush."

Schaeffer BUMP!


17 posted on 09/24/2006 8:54:32 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

Thanks for the ping!


18 posted on 09/24/2006 9:51:56 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance
Thank you for the ping. This is an interesting thread: The extremists mentioned in the article are such men as Francis Schaeffer, but those mentioned in posts in reply are abortion-mill bombers (have there been 2?) -

Rudin is apparently not virulently against those who call themselves Christians but act in opposition to the Name of Christ, but those Christians who actually preach Christ's gospel and walk in God's Word!

Isaiah 62

1 For Zion's sake I will not keep silent,
for Jerusalem's sake I will not remain quiet,
till her righteousness shines out like the dawn,
her salvation like a blazing torch.
2 The nations will see your righteousness,
and all kings your glory;
you will be called by a new name
that the mouth of the LORD will bestow.
3 You will be a crown of splendor in the LORD's hand,
a royal diadem in the hand of your God.
4 No longer will they call you Deserted,
or name your land Desolate.
But you will be called Hephzibah,
and your land Beulah;
for the LORD will take delight in you,
and your land will be married.
5 As a young man marries a maiden,
so will your sons marry you;
as a bridegroom rejoices over his bride,
so will your God rejoice over you.
6 I have posted watchmen on your walls, O Jerusalem;
they will never be silent day or night.

You who call on the LORD,
give yourselves no rest,
7 and give him no rest till he establishes Jerusalem
and makes her the praise of the earth.


19 posted on 09/25/2006 2:11:54 AM PDT by .30Carbine
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To: All
Unbelievers sometimes conspire to hinder the cause of Christ—to threaten our gospel-spreading plans, and even our lives. This troubles and burdens our souls because we want the word to run and triumph. So we wrestle in prayer for the safety of Christ’s ambassadors, and the opening of many doors, and the bold proclamation of the gospel. And in our best moments of such wrestling, we do not lose our rest in Jesus.

We rest on Thee, our Shield and our Defender!
We go not forth alone against the foe;
Strong in Thy strength, safe in Thy keeping tender,
We rest on Thee, and in Thy Name we go.

We go to wrestle—resting on our Shield and our Defender.

Therefore, we must wrestle against every temptation to rest in anything but Jesus. And we must wrestle in prayer (not with guns or swords or bombs) against all the efforts of man and Satan to hinder the spread of the gospel. In all this, our wrestling is not a substitute for resting, but a means of resting.

~John Piper, DesiringGod.org, Resting and Wrestling for the Cause of Christ—Together


20 posted on 09/25/2006 2:51:31 AM PDT by .30Carbine
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